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It probably costs much more money for a government to do UBI in the long term.
Not when you factor in the productivity and social harmony of a healthy citizen population.
Until by the next year rent has universally increased by the UBI.
I'm fully in favor of UBI, but unless we can get a government that will actually crack down on price gouging all it will do is funnel right back to the crooks at the top.
Have to start somewhere, and starting with ubi is a lot better then the crooked system in place now.
I'd be fine with starting with it, though people seeing prices rise right after will be really disheartening. I'd rather start with actual legislation to punish price gouging. These companies posting record profits while the rest of us struggle more and more is absurd, and I would want to root out that greed first so any UBI can actually help the people at the bottom.
Of course, I don't expect the American government to do either of these things. Three Republicans will call it the work of Satan or something crazy like that and the Democrats will say they're all for it until they actually have the means to do it, then suddenly it'll be too much to handle.
Yea, just start them. People are so conservative that doing anything different from the status quo scares them, but once we have social policies in place, people like them. Libraries, national parks, paved roads, garbage trucks, conservatives fought against every positive social policy, medicare, but then appreciated them once they were enacted.
I don't mind people possibly being surprised at inflation if their basic financial expenses are covered.
We haven't tried it yet, it works as expected in all the trials so far, just do it.
The mechanics of sensible ubi are straightforward: enough money or money/housing to ensure survival, public education, pay more to those who contribute more to society.
Nothing is perfect, but ensuring the health of the population and investing in their success is a much better model for progress and growth than the ridiculous she damaging disparity the states is investing in at the moment.
We need public universal medical with no private option in order to create full price regulation of medical, we don't want the government doing any more than we have to have them do though, because of corruption and lack of input from the populass. (Well almost no real input) We need the military budget and all the wasteful spending on secretive spy programs and BS to go away. Minimize or dissolve the NSA for example, and direct all that money towards social services, accountability, and a UBI or something near it. With AI exponentially progressing we might want more of a giant divided. Then everyone's wealth could potentially skyrocket in unison, without the top heavy distribution. So really what I'm saying is we need to own the means of production collectively. Lol
Hope you're right then. I really wanna see UBI implemented, I'm just worrying it will backfire.
Multiple UBI tests have shown that giving people money on a regular basis lifts them out of poverty and puts more money into the local economy.
And yet I can understand the skepticism and fear. We have not had yet a big scale "experiment" (i.e. a whole country implementing it). It will have bigger yet to resolve implications (e.g. what's the effect on migration etc.).
(And I'm a big proponent of UBI)
But I think it's just a matter of time that this will become reality, we're to rich (in the western world) to fiddle around with "annoyances" like poor people, and I strongly believe that it will increase creativity, innovation and thus also GDP which may be probably the biggest argument for policy makers.