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[โ€“] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unions are much stronger in Europe. In the US they're a lot more limited in what they can do, if a strike would be too disruptive, which is, you know, the whole fucking point of a strike, the government can just forbid it.

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

That conversation gave me such a headache around the rail strike.

"They need sick days and proper pay"

"I recognize that"

"that's why they're on strike"

"well if they're allowed to strike the economy shuts down"

"if they're so important they should probably get fair pay and benefits shouldn't they?"

"Well yeah"

"that's why they're on strike"

"well if they're allowed to strike the economy shuts down"

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[โ€“] Emerald@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Fuck the economy. The fact that capitalist society runs on nothing but greed and the desire for infinite growth is an issue, not the economy being "bad"

[โ€“] Facebones@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

What I hate is the only measure of "the economy" is the stock market.

The stock market measures nothing but the theft of economic value. Pick any other metric and it's FUUUUUCKED

[โ€“] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That's why what we really need is for unions themselves to unionize to threaten a general strike. It's an absolute last resort as it would be a complete economic killswitch, but it's a threat that can't be ignored.

It drives me crazy how people almost always fail to see the other answer.

"well if they don't get sick days and proper pay the economy shuts down"

Like, you're not even having a debate about which framing makes the most sense, they just don't see one of them.