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[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Communism fails every time it is tried because it goes against human nature of constantly comparing yourself to others and trying to improve yourself. You will never do harder work if you can get the same reward for easier work, and you will look for other, less moral ways of getting the bigger reward.

Communism sounds great but it will never work until we have unlimited resources and completely automated labour.

[–] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 year ago

Nah, that's just wrong. You can compare yourself in other ways than how much fake money you earn. Fun thing is: truly communistic society would mean easier work for most people.

And communism does work in small scale enviroments. Families, cooperatives, tribes. Sometimes neighborhoods.

This whole "Sounds great but won't work" rhethoric is just what the ones that would loose their power in communsim want you to think. If you dig into it you will see, that there were and are a lot of efforts to discredit the idea.

[–] LaKris@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I agree with you, this doesn’t mean that Eastern Europe was communist.

[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They did attempt to be communist, but they failed like every other attempt will fail. Greed is basic human nature, and those who have it more than others will find a way to abuse the system, get in charge and ruin it.

[–] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What did they do to be communist? And what about a society where there is no such thing as 'in charge'?

[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

How would a society like that work?

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Greed is basic human nature

I'm not arguing your other points, but this isn't always true. Humans seem to crave respect, not necessarily monetory wealth. If you want you can read more about gift economies.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's funny because I do easy work for a great paycheck yet we have a harder time hiring than in my previous job which didn't pay as well and was harder.

[–] ciko22i3@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you say what are the jobs?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm in my mid thirties, my current job (first time for this employer) is the best paid and offers the best conditions and is the easiest one I've ever worked and they need to give us a retention bonus so people don't leave for another department.

I'll leave it at that so I don't dox myself.

Edit: Don't know why people are downvoting? It's an office job that requires a high-school diploma, I've worked physical jobs before that paid less and where we weren't short staffed as we are in my current job. Happy?

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You can tell us the field of work, that wouldn't Dox you to know it's programing versus electrician or something.