Transitive defederation -- defederating from instances that federate with Threads as well as defederating from Threads -- isn't likely to be an all-or-nothing thing in the free fediverses. Tradeoffs are different for different people and instances. This is one of the strengths of the fediverse, so however much transitive defederation there winds up being, I see it as overall as a positive thing -- although also messy and complicated.

The recommendation here is for instances to consider #TransitiveDefederation: discuss, and decide what to do. I've also got some thoughts on how to have the discussion -- and the strategic aspects.

(Part 7 of Strategies for the free fediverses )

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[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Man just gotta respond to one thing here. I’m not for protecting anyone from any ideas. Better to have an immune system than a sterile environment that requires isolation to maintain.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lack of isolation online played a big part in my deconverting from Christianity.

These goobers on Mastodon content warning a fucking dog looking at you or, heaven forbid, a plate of food, cracks me up.

How do they function day to day? Grow up.

[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

strawman ._.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Where’s the strawman? Those are specific examples I’ve seen.

[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

where

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

With “ideas” i am actually referencing any less then respect plans collecting data and monopolizing the fediverse meta may have.

I wouldn’t be supposed if meta wasn’t paying some in house developers to help work on the open source federation improvements only to in same breath ease in compatibility with their own systems.

If we’re not careful we might get properly invaded, meta will set the rules for the fediverse to follow. Independent communities that cant follow the same new protocols gets pushed out and will go extinct.

At least thats what i understood is the reason threads gets defederated, better to break up now that its small then to get consumed as it grows.

But i still hoped there could Be some safe doors and gateways in the middle.

[–] sour@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

does ideas include fascism

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there's fascist ideas somewhere on Lemmy. And on Mastodon. Ideas can be fascist. Unless you want to get into a very complex philosophical debate I think that's pretty established.

[–] sour@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

are you for protecting people from fascism

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not from the idea of it, no.

[–] sour@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

._.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You do realise protecting people from the idea of fascism means people not knowing about the holocaust or how Mussolini gained power right?

[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

history and fascism sold as good idea is different thing

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Thats shifting the goalposts, I don't see anyone advocating for fascism here, just for saying people shouldnt be shielded from the idea of it

[–] sour@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

that fascism exists isnt idea to protect people from

that fascism is good is