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Buddy of mine and I were chatting on Discord and we ended up having a conversation about this topic.

Namely imagine you just put two people in a room. One from New Jersey and one from LA and observe

Wild how different cultures can be even inside a country.

What do y’all think? Is it due to the size of the US (geographically)?

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[–] CheeseAndCrepes@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Born in the south and moved to Philadelphia in my early twenties. It was more culture shock than some other countries I’ve been to. Folks in Philly don’t hold back. If they don’t like you they tell you, to your face. They also don’t feel the need to add all the extra and often unnecessary pleasantries to every social interaction. Honestly for a “well mannered” southern kid it was pretty liberating to get to drop all that.

[–] lamentforicarus@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Growing up in the South is learning to be mean by way of looking nice.

[–] Spacegrass@artemis.camp 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] lamentforicarus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Proudly have never had that said to me lol

[–] CheeseAndCrepes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a really good way to put it that I’ve never heard before.

[–] lamentforicarus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It took me a while to figure out. Like I knew Southerners can be mean and judgy, but I didn't think about how until I traveled to other places and saw how much more straightforward people are. It's nice when kindness is kindness and there's no underlying meaning.

[–] Kaladin_Stormblessed@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can never tell when people are doing this, and it’s really confusing to me. I wish more people would just say things outright!

[–] lamentforicarus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's a subtly, yeah. There's a lot of reading between the lines along, which is annoying if you're not used to it.

[–] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One big difference I've noticed: Well mannered Northerners do not often say Ma'am or Sir, unless they're being snarky or work in the hospitality or food service industry (and even there it'snot all the time). I have rarely met a Northern child that ends a sentence addressed to an adult with Ma'am or Sir.. It sounds almost sarcastic from a Northernkid because it is hardly heard.. Or indicates a very strict upbringing. They are way more likely to call an adult by their first name, even. If a Southern kid tried that, whew. I've known some Southern children, teenage and adult, who always address their parents as Ma'am or Sir.

As you mentioned, there's no direct insulting to the face, at least none that I've encountered. But there sure are a lot of faux kind comments like "Bless his heart."

ETA: I edited this comment a bit upon reflection.