We (at least in the U.S.) have no real safety net for people who are unable to provide for themselves for whatever reason. Capitalism is great if you're the one with the capital but if not the world can be a brutal, uncaring place and you can quite literally die on the street.

Crime is endemic to capitalism and I feel like better social safety nets would pay huge dividends in a lot of ways.

[–] rainh@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Capitalism is not an ideology though. It's just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other. Saying it's an ideology is like saying atheism is a religion. No, it's what happens when there is no religion.

Crime is also not endemic to capitalism. It happens in all societies, including communist ones.

[–] norbert@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are many many primitive societies with no concept of capital or capitalism so I think I'd take issue with your assertion that capitalism is "just what naturally happens when humans interact with each other."

[–] Rubezahl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely. There is nothing "natural" about capitalism. It sprung up in some place of the world (not all) a couple of centuries ago. Thousands of years of humanity and no capitalism before that.

There is nothing natural or inevitable about capitalism. Historical determinism is plain wrong. Capitalism is just one of many ways to organize a society. Its time will pass in due course. Probably not in our lifetimes, unfortunately.

[–] C4RP3_N0CT3M@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That may be accurate, but we were discussing communism, not capitalism.

[–] norbert@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Luckily this is a forum and we can all contribute to the discussion. If you read the comment you replied to you'll see they mentioned living under unregulated capitalism; I was adding to what they'd said.