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[–] Pazuzu@lemmy.ca 155 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did everyone forget the texts to minors? Dude was a predator. He wasn't dropped from the show just on the DV accusations but also the mountain of evidence that show he was a creep. https://wegotthiscovered.com/celebrities/justin-roiland-claims-embittered-ex-tried-to-have-him-canceled-but-fans-ask-what-about-those-alleged-creepy-messages-to-minors/

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I personally think it was the wrong call to drop Roiland before his court case for domestic abuse was reviewed - innocent until proven guilty.

Remember how at the start of the Depp/Heard trial everyone labeled Depp a monster? Then in court, Heard revealed herself to be a liar.

However, the texts he sent to minors were disqualifying in their own right. As a form of risk mitigation, you can't continue to employ the star of a show teens love, texting underage girls about how they should hurry up and turn eighteen.

[–] aaron_griffin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Eh, "innocent until proven guilty" is a legal doctrine, not a business one. Sadly, popular tv shows are big business and negative publicity ruins that business, so the business overlords have to make a choice to soak the damage or mitigate it

[–] tomich@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I believe he actually wanted to leave. He's a Co creator and will still win money from Rick and Morty. But not if people stop watching as protest or something like that. And at this point it's all 100% an image issue and it doesn't matter if he's guilty or not. He knows his image is already fkd. Most of his "friends" and coworkers cut relations with him to protect themselves.

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

This is just speculation, but I assumed as a matter of respect, the R&M team would have given him a choice to step down or not. I don't see a situation where keeping him on would be worth the hassle.

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

The Roiland DV case is very different from the depp/heard defamation case.

1: the Roiland case was about whether or not he was found to be committing DV. and it was inconclusive evidence. He might not be found guilty but he’s also not found innocent.

2: His accuser was not to be found guilty of perjury. the case was about finding evidence of DV. Not perjury of his accuser. the depp/heard case was explicitly about what heard gave to the media is what she was found guilty of.

3: Roiland and his accuser didn’t sign a non-disparagement claus. and his accuser didn’t then go talk to Washington post without any conclusive evidence on the outcome of the case. And probably a good thing roiland didn’t sign such a non-disparagement claus as he did post misinformation meant to publicly harm his accuser with that misleading Twitter post about what his case was actually about.

[–] NuPNuA@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

What's most egregious is that Adult Swim are owned by WB and look how many chances they gave Ezra Miller and he still got to be The Flash. Roiland had one set of dropped charges and he got sacked.

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

oh no a voice actor the most pure and holy of prefessions how dare he be a criminal

send him to gulag, take away his right to vote, take away his citizenship

[–] Kara@kbin.social 98 points 1 year ago

What the fuck are you talking about

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gonna give you a chace to clarify, but are you defending child predation???

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

no anyone who has ever commited a crime should be stripped of all rightz and sent to the gulag until they die forever

[–] quinnly@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This conversation is specifically about child predation. Do you think child predation is okay? Do you think it's comparable to just any crime? Honestly looking for your thoughts on this because your sarcasm isn't doing it

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

no anyone who has ever commited a crime should be stripped of all rightz and sent to the gulag until they die forever

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

A straw man of the highest degree. No one is suggesting anything close to that. Tell me, what gulag is he residing in?

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes those are the two options: no consequences and prison forever without rights. Definitely no attempts at rehabilitation with some punishment

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a yes losing the right to vote is a great rehabilitation

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Did I say that I don’t support prisoner sufferage? I Support consequences but not necessarily the exact same ones my country insists on. I’ll go even further, I think carceral solutions should be treated as extreme.

[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then Id be happy to tell you the Gulag hasnt existed since the 60's, so you can stop making dumbass comments! :)

[–] Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Gulag is real, it's real in our hearts.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago

It's also in the free to play battle royale shooter Call of Duty: Warfare, available now.

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You absolutely suck at sarcasm.

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Calling it sarcasm is a poorly aimed compliment to assume they are so clever.

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

You even make shitposting look bad

[–] Smoogy@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

You are everything that is wrong with the internet.