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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I might've used all of them at one point, but again I'd be fine with just one - after all it's a smartphone, not a dedicated camera. Personally it annoys me that manufacturers have started shoving multiple cameras not just into high end models (for which it's kind of understandable) but also into midrange and even low end ones - whatever I pick, I end up paying for stuff I don't necessarily use. I'd be happy to buy a high end device with just one camera with normal or wide-ish lens - but nobody is selling that.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Personally it annoys me that manufacturers have started shoving multiple cameras

Multiple camera modules is how a phone can take better photos than they could before. Why do you care about the technical details needed to achieve a better quality photo?

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Multiple camera modules are what gives you a bit of versatility, but shoving in more and more modules is not what pushes technical progress. What annoys me is that this is part of what contributes to the ever increasing end user price. When was the last time you saw a new phone costing the same as the previous year's model? Again, I'd be fine with a top-specced phone even if it only has one camera.

Side question: how do dedicated cameras improve each year? Hint: it's not by putting more camera modules in.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

shoving in more and more modules is not what pushes technical progress.

How are better photos not pushing technical limits?

Shoving more cores in cpus barely helps either because most algorithms are single threaded. There's nothing else that can be done because of technical limitations. But no one is angry their phone has 8 cores instead of 1.

I personally love the periscope camera in my Pixel. It gives me 5x optical range without having to carry a camera around. The wide angle lens is also great at Thanksgiving/ Christmas/ Birthday dinners when you want to get everyone in the photo. Pinch zoom out and everyone is in the photo.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Phones are cheaper now, it seems to me, other than the flagships which are an exercise in pushing the frontier of what people are willing to pay.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not really. A mid range phone is now easily $400-500 or more; that used to be the price range for flagships not that long ago.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just bought a Moto G Stylus 5G 2023, $250 new, I'd consider it a midrange phone (top of Moto's budget line). Entry level would be the G Play which is $100 new. $500 to me would be a premium phone and $1000 is a flagship. My previous phone was a Moto G4 from around 2017. It was around $170 new and was positioned a little bit above where the G Play is now.