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[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 114 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

An $11,000 wage increase is ~$5/hr for a full time employee.

Starting pay at Startbucks is around $15/hr. They're famously stingy with full-time though, so in reality it is quite a bit more than a 25% increase.

Honestly, I was expecting to find some glaring error in the logic on this but I don't really see it.

[-] Fermion@mander.xyz 82 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The glaring error is this screenshot is listing an income figure that is comparable to the 2022 total revenues in the 2022 fiscal report.

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/SBUX/starbucks/ebitda

It looks like Starbucks 2023 EBITDA was $7.3 Billion and the net income was $4.1 Billion.

The post makes a good point, but uses garbage data. Why do they do this? Although an $11,000 raise would elliminate the actual net earnings figure.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There it is. I kept finding investor reports claiming the same 25 bil number as the net profit, but that's just goofy if their actual bottom-line was under 5.

And that $11,000 figure is now about 6x too big. Meaning we're talking about a less than a dollar raise. Not to even mention ebida is STILL more than bottom-line profits.

[-] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

From their press release website, $36 biliion consolidated net revenue reported at a 16% profit margin for fiscal year 2023 leaves $5.76 billion after every expense has been deducted.

[-] Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago

With equal distribution, that actually makes a $12,500 raise for 400,000 employees

[-] yacht_boy@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

First, that assumes the company makes no profit at all. Not a sustainable way to keep a company in business. If they go out of business, 400,000 people lose their jobs and a whole lot of them lose their health insurance. Starbucks is pretty well known for being generous with their benefits.

Second, wages are typically only about 2/3 or even less of the total compensation, and don't account for the employer's share of payroll taxes.

So figure that you think Starbucks should make half their current profits and give the other half to their employees. That puts it at $6250 per employee, which would likely translate to about $4000/ year before the employees' portion of taxes, or about a $2/hour raise. Which would be great for employees making maybe $30k/year, but is not exactly going to vault them into the middle class.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

Why do they do this?

Incredibly frustrating.

Should we form an eat the rich union, obviously.

Is sharing garbage data on social media the way to get there, no! Real data (like on wealth concentration) is offensive enough!

[-] ZOSTED@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

EBITDA

Alright this is sounding too much like a meeting, I better get back to my actual job

[-] isles@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It appears they've done ~$670MM of stock buybacks this year as well (after a ton of press coverage last year saying they were stopping stock buybacks), which would have been net income.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 months ago

I did the math, too, and came to the same conclusion.

I'll just be over here eating cake, like a good sans-culottes

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