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This may be my favorite thought process sovereign citizens go through.
"I don't have to follow laws as long as I make shit up. But everyone else is required to follow the law exactly as I assume it works for normal people."
Back in mandatory masking days of COVID, one of them posted that he tried to shop in a store without a mask (they hate masks and literally think it's against their religion), and was refused service so he just decided to shoplift instead, and came on the sovcit group asking for the law that said if money was refused that meant it was free. I have never laughed so hard.
"Sovcit, here's $20,000 for your house."
"What? It's not for sale"
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Dont forget using a notary...presumably one who was granted their power by the State.
New business idea: novelty "notary" stamps for sovereign citizens. Make sure they say "definitely not a real notary" on them so you don't get sued by the state. Sovereign citizens who hate the state will love it.
A notary just checks your id. That's what they're confirming... That they checked who u say u are.
They also are background checked by the state that issues their stamp. And they keep a log book of all their notarizations. And they testify in court that you did sign a document.
If it was just "checking your ID" anyone could do it. That's just called a "witness".
I hadn't thought of this angle. Glorious!
I think they genuinely believe they are reading the law right and everyone else is just wrong or don't know something they know etc. So from their pov they're following all the laws that are lawful I suppose, so there's no contradiction in their mind.
They think the same thing about you.
Unless they’re really fucking out there and believe you know they’re right but are acting in bad faith because you’re in on this whole thing. So gross.
I think that is a part of it. They certainly seem to think lawyers and judges and cops and anyone like that having to do with law is in on the conspiracy or what you'd call it. They probably think that normal people are just chumps who don't know any better and are getting fooled by the "system" or something and the "system" knows they're wrong but are just manipulating everyone etc.
But wouldn't they like ...see the lack of enforcement in action? If a law forbids me from wearing Crocs on public but I don't get fined or detained for wearing them, that law might as well not exist.
Something must have gone wrong as they grew up that makes them believe in some almighty entity forcing others to follow the law as they imagine. It's like these people got law and religion tangled up. They think breaking the law is going to lead to damnation and nobody of sound mind would take that route. That not being the case pisses them off very much.
Treat these people as what they are, a cult. Absolute delusion.
They probably think about it as much as they question parents, religious leaders, or any other perceived authority: they don't. You listen to authority as if it's divine law, and you don't question it.
At least, that's how I thought when I was in that mode of thinking (not a sovciv, just the conservative authority mindset).
In my experience, those that go with these sorts of theories tend to be antagonistic towards those who don't follow them instead of being kind and trying to convince others. They really believe that people are genuinely knowers of the truth but acting evilly for their own reasons.
These are basically the same people who will click the ads that say something like "this quick trick your doctor doesn't want you to know will save your thousands and keep you healthy for life".