It's a fantastic ideology; arguably perfect. Unfortunately, it has never worked and will never work because it is incompatible with human nature. The more humans involved, the more extreme the incompatibility.

[–] CthulhuOnIce@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

does anyone using the "human nature" argument even know what they're saying?

what about "human nature" or "humans aren't perfect" undermines socialism or communism? by what mechanism?

it feels like it's a talking point that means absolutely nothing when viewed critically, and is only mindlessly repeated because it sounds cynical and "smart"

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suppose greed, the want of power, and “looking out for number one” is what they mean.

[–] CthulhuOnIce@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

yeah but like how does that undermine socialism lol, the system is driven by self interest, you get from the system what you put into it

as opposed to capitalism where you just earn whatever your wage is regardless of your actual productivity

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Communism will either work, or our planet will fall apart. Capitalism is unsustainable, economically, ecologically and socially.

Feudalism, imperialism and monarchism were all part of the evolution of governance systems leading to capitalism.

After capitalism comes socialism, then communism. As a matter of political science, it is inevitable. Unless we cook ourselves to death first.