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[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Communism isn't the issue the same way Capitalism isn't the issue, the issue is rich people abusing working class and poor people. Removing democracy from these systems just make them absolutely horrid in the long run. Also China isn't communist it's state capitalist dictatorship.

[–] object_Object@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Finally, a smart person here

[–] mokoshark69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

China are ABSOLUTLEY communists, just the smarter type

[–] nanoUFO@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How are they communist? Their economy is obviously heavily based on capitalism, no redistribution of wealth. The only thing that lines up is the promise of socializing in the future? Though I don't believe western politicians nevermind Chinese dictators.

[–] ReaganMcDonald@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I love how Westerners are just regular politicians, but Chinese people are dictators here. You know, when Mao made mistakes he was democratically pushed out while local elections were still running. I don't understand why you mention no redistribution of wealth, however, because China is known for massive infrastructure projects, poverty alleviation, and constant quality of life improvements. That's more redistribution than I see in the entirety of Europe, and this same Chinese "dictator" is the reason we might be able to save this planet from ecological death.

[–] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's just like Hitler's party's name. They said that they are socialists, but in practice it wasn't true at all.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What someone calls themselves and what they actually are don't always match up.

[–] ReaganMcDonald@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Socialism in Germany was a middle-class tendency that was frequently co-opted by right-wingers. The German Communists tried to fight against this, but the Social Democrats sent in the Freikorps to kill them. So yeah, some German socialists abandoned their principles to become fascists while the Communists got killed and were later put into concentration camps. Not a good example, because it ignores every other piece of history that went into that story.

[–] HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

How much time have you spent in china? When I worked there they were capitalist as fuck with everyone hustling for themselves ( besides the government being able to force people and companies to do anything they wish)