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[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pint%C3%A9r_S%C3%A1ndor_(rend%C5%91rtiszt)

The head commissar of the National Police from communist times is the current Minister of Interior. Also, he was a board member in Hungary's largest bank during the brief time he wasn't in the government in some way.

Half a dozen ministers from Orbán's government shared a dorm room with him back when he was secretary for the Young Communists.

Unlike most neighbouring countries, the documents detailing covert interior security agents have not been publicly released. The people of the old Hungarian State Security who were tasked with finding out, torturing and killing counterrevolutionaries are now occupying seats in the parliament, government and opposition alike.

So lol yes, they are. Except they now pretend to be fascists instead of pretending to be communists.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Under capitalism the political class are subservient to the financial elite. You are making a hierarchy error, these people are puppets to the real elite.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Orbán is the richest man in Hungary. He is the financial elite. There was one person who has been used by him as a strawman and thus was in the same league financially, and then he tried to go against him. The guy is out of the country and has been stripped of most of his money.

You're applying US patterns to places you don't understand. In Hungary, the old communist elite saved their power and transferred it into the new capitalist system, that morphed into the current hybrid regime. It resembles Russia more than anything else, with the same pattern that you can't be independently wealthy in Hungary.

[–] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You’re applying US patterns to places you don’t understand.

I'm not american.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't say that, only that there is no one "capitalist" system with patterns that apply everywhere. You said that the government of Hungary is subservient to its financial class, but there is no financial class in Hungary that's separate from the government.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

They didn't say you're American, they're saying you're applying US patterns to places you don't understand, which you certainly don't have to be American to do.