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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

maybe instead of demanding the votes of the left you should earn them. Of course, this only really applies in systems where 2 parties dominate while other parties aren't really a credible option for most people, like the US, which in itself is a systemic flaw that should be addressed if you want a healthy democracy.

You don't get to blame people for not voting your candidate because "it was less bad than the other", if your whole point is being less bad than the other, rather than actually being good, then you're already losing and you should start looking at how to fix this issue before it gets worse. When turnout is lower than usual, like in 2016 in the US but also other elections like Italy in 2022, it means that democracy isn't healthy and there's a systemic problem which is leading to voters getting disillusioned, disengaged and disenfranchised from politics, which is extremely bad and should signal to you that "There's an issue! We need to fix it!" not that "Voters are so lazy/dumb/scum for not getting off their couch and voting [for me]".

Finally, I'd like to reiterate that if you keep asking leftists to vote for you at every election (to beat the other bad guys), yet every time you move further away from the left and/or disappoint leftists, eventually leftists will stop believing your bullshit and not vote you anymore, and you deserve that.

[–] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like the two party, two candidates I get to chose be every election is like picking a rapist or murderer. Which one's less evil? I don't know. They're all evil , what now?

I pretty much gave up when Trump became the right candidate....AGAIN

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean I think I'd rather have a loved one be raped instead of murdered. I actually had a friend of mine who was murdered, I miss him everyday... if he was raped, he'd talk to his therapist about it, live to testify against the person who wronged him, and there wouldn't be an awkward hole in our friend group that we don't talk about.

I'd much rather help him recover from a traumatic experience than have to bury the guy, but I wasn't that lucky.

[–] MSgtRedFox@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago

My sentiment was more about the perpetrator in those example scenarios. Both offenders in the hypothetical are bad, and certainly not the type of people who should be in charge of anything. I know the comparison is a bit extreme, but that's the level of corruption I see in all our political parties, and how much distain I have for them. There's likely never a perfect angle politician that perfectly represents all your values and morals, but damn, I'd settle for just decent.

Sorry your friend is gone. My friend group lost a guy also and it sucks. He was cool. He died sleeping in his car though, not murdered.