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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why is China included in your Axis of Evil? Their leadership might be shit right now but they haven’t started a war and nor are they anything like North Korea. I can visit Shanghai and have a lovely day but I can’t even legally go to Pyongyang, Tehran, or St. Petersburg right now.

Not endorsing the CCP or anything. I condemn Hamas, etc. China just seems like it’s a few notches below the others.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

That's a fair point, they could be worse than they have been lately. They are there for their abysmal human rights record, their refusal to recognize basic rights, their annexation of nearby peaceful countries, treatment of dissidents, sectarian violence, their threats and reckless behavior in the South China Sea, corrupt trade practices, exploitation of desperate nations, total lack of transparency or democratic accountability, and for directly supporting the other shithole authoritarian states on my list that who are fantasizing about a China or Russia dominated new world order. Nothing against the people of China and I don't claim the US and the West has been perfect beacons of freedom and human rights but we try and sometimes we come close. China never comes close.

[–] Apollo@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

State run concentration/reeducation camps and almost complete lack of civil liberties sure seems fitting for the description 'evil'.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I’m not saying China is a force for good. I’m saying one could have a relatively normal life in China whereas North Korea is on a different level. China, despite its ambitions and obnoxiousness in the South China Sea, isn’t funding several proxy militias like Iran. It hasn’t invaded Mongolia or even Taiwan.

What Modi and Hindu nationalists are doing in India is despicable. Four fifths of the world’s starving people are currently in Gaza. The Rohingya ethnic cleansing is ongoing. The Horn of Africa is a hot mess. There’s a lot of evil in the world right now. I wouldn’t put China 4th worst.