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[–] RickTofu@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (4 children)

No one is right in the Israel-Gaza conflict and I feel like many of the pro-palestine people's ideals are closer to those of nazi's than the ideals of all the people they're calling nazi's.

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Yes, except the Israeli government are the ones creating ghettos, actively stealing land and ethnic cleansing.

Neither Hamas or the state of Israel are good, or right, but one of these two has put way more points on the board over the last half century, and it ain't Hamas.

Hamas is the result of Isreal's brutality, not the cause.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Both sides suck. But ethnic cleansing is no bueno.

[–] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I can see this, except the last point. Like just to start with, to assume Hamas is worse, IMO, only makes sense if you think it started on Oct 7th.

Like we watch Jim hit Greg

So Greg hits Jim

Obviously, Jim is the issue........

Except Greg has hit Jim every day for the last month. Every now and then Jim would do something to try and defend himself, or even attempt to fight back a bit, but Greg always won. Yet now we are cheering for Greg? Doesn't make sense.

"But Hamas went after cutizens!"

Isreal has always gone after citizens. But sure, let's go for scale.

Greg hits Jim every day for the last month.

Jim finally hits Greg

Greg takes a rusty shank to Jim's neck

Jim is clearly worse than Greg.

"That's exageration!"

Isreal has killed thousands of children, and openly thinks its great, and wants to kill even more. They actively are still targeting civilians.

But in timeliness and scale, Isreal is clearly the worst of the two. That doesn't mean I support Hamas and them targeting the music festival. But I dont support Isreal openly committing war crimes, and saying they don't give a fuck and will continue to do so. No one deserves shit like white phosphorus. Especially children who have nothing to do with this.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 0 points 10 months ago

Palestinians wanting an end to segregation, occupation, and genocide are right. 🤷