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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by lulztard@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de
 

People at Bonn protesting against Nazi cunts singing Ode to Joy

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[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 113 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Damn. Wish the rest of Europe would do it this big.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In Germany millions are protesting against our fascist party AfD, after they unveiled their mass deportation plans.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I know. It's good.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Look great.

Now I am expeting the same millions of people protesting the things that let afd to grow.

Remember, afd is a consequence not a cause.

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.de 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but destroying the consequence is sometimes needed to eliminate the cause.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 9 months ago

Only if you just want to hide the causes in the short term.

But let's assume that you destroy afd, do you really think that all the people that vote for them will change their mind while having the same problems ? You basically only said to them to shut up, do you really think it will work well ? Maybe for the next electoral deadline, but then ?

[–] albert180@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You mean Russian Money and Disinformation Propaganda?

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Whatever are the causes, if you just remove the consequences you don't solve the problem.

Let's assume that afd grow only becasue Russian money and disinformation (which I personlly don't belive like I don't belive that Fratelli d'Italia won because suddently 30% if the italian population is fascist), do you really think that destroying afd will stop the flow of money and disinformation ? They simply will choose (or build) another group to give the money to making better choices.

And you will end up in a situation where the far right group will be able to paint you as the bad guy because you oppose things that basically will be the same things afd is proposing now but with a much nicer dress so that they look acceptable.

[–] albert180@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No but they will loose all their existing structures money and the personnel involved is "burned". They can't just found a new party. So it buys a few years to tackle the problems in other ways.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 9 months ago

I would not be that optimist about the "few years", expecially because I don't see the will to fix the problems which leaded to the afd (and far right in general) grow.

To me this just seems something like "hide the dirt under the rug and hope that it will go away". And it is a stupid path to follow

[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

the french are already doing it quite well, wherever you live would definetely benefit from a protest of this scale.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 9 months ago

The French right wing party β€œFront National” nearly won the presidential election. I think France should do a lot better!!

[–] bouh@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

When? Where? Last time I remember this in France was 19 years ago. :-(