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[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The question remains. The clock is supposed to be about impending doom. Slow moving disasters can include many things and I used climate change as an example. But there are many others. Disease, blight and even an asteroid if it's big enough.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

The issue really is that these people don't like the reminder because they don't want to act because they are still comfortable and they know any meaningful action "threatens" their way of life (because they can only think within the box capitalism created for them, making them fear anything outside of it).

They'll tell you they do act until they're blue in the face, but it will come down to things like driving an EV and using a reusable cup at Starbucks. Because it's about making themselves feel better, not fighting the actual problem - same as framing the clock as fearmongering instead of the desperate call to action it has become..

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The clock is supposed to be about impending doom.

Which I've already clarified is ridiculous and unhelpful even if a crisis deserves our utmost attention. That's on both a pragmatic and a psychological level. If you want a long series of continuous eye rolls, by all means continue telling people the sky is literally falling.

Slow moving disasters can include many things and I used climate change as an example. But there are many others.

None of which include global annihilation as even a remote possibility.

Disease, blight and even an asteroid if it’s big enough.

Do you think telling people we're seconds from an asteroid hitting will help them do literally anything? What if you tell them that every single day for 40 years? Do you think it'll help them more in 40 years than it does today?

Since you completely avoided meaningfully responding to literally anything I just wrote and fell back on repeating yourself as if I somehow don't understand English, I'll bow out here. Enjoy your masturbatory doom fetish.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How many different ways can I tell you guys that a doomsday clock is the most ludicrous and flatly ineffective tool for communicating the stresses we're facing in the 21st century? Do you need me to send you a telegram? Maybe a passenger pigeon? I can have it written in the sky by a biplane if that'll help. Maybe in another language? Hieroglyphics perhaps?

My dude, I studied this. I have two graduate degrees in these subjects. I'm no stranger to the very real problems we're facing as a global species, and in fact I've dedicated my entire career to fighting environmental degradation, often at the expense of my family, my finances, and my health.

A DOOMSDAY CLOCK IS STUPID AND HASN'T HELPED ME OR ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES AT ANY POINT IN OUR ENTIRE PROFESSIONAL CAREERS.

God fucking damn y'all are dense.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah the clock is stupid, lol, but we should prepare for collapse by 2030, 2050 at the latest.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Whatever the fuck you do in the comfort of your own basement is your business, chief.