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[–] JuliusSeizure@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Yeah it makes no sense. I think the media is just out to trash Elon at every opportunity for any miniscule thing. He is somewhat of an outcast of the billionaires club in that he dies not appear to want to enslave humanity and deny the poors of their rights.

[–] PaperTowel@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea he just settles for treating his employees with no respect and firing them on a whim without their owed severance pay.

[–] JuliusSeizure@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] oneofthemladygoats@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I mean... take your pick on who he hasn't paid, there are pleeeeenty of examples out there. He even lost the ability to engage in arbitration over the unpaid severance because he didn't pay the mediators lmfao. https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=twitter+unpaid+bills

Serious question for you- why are you defending him? Like, the information demonstrating he's kind of stupid and a terrible person is so easily available to you. At this point you have to actively work to remain ignorant of it, and his history of trying to claim accomplishments that aren't his own. Why bother?

[–] xapr@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Here's one big example of unpaid severance pay: https://www.reuters.com/legal/twitter-again-sued-over-severance-pay-bias-during-layoffs-2023-07-18/

Plus I've read many comments from insiders before that every single company he runs is a terrible place to work for, in terms of overworking employees.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean, who hasn't wanted to experiment with putting microchips into baboon skulls, or called someone a pedophile just because they hurt your feelings, or treats their workers like absolute trash? He's just a regular guy doing regular things and the media is using him as their whipping boy.

[–] JuliusSeizure@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Transhumanism is a thing whether we like it or not, hopefully Elon will do it ethically. I don't care if he said mean things to somone, that is between him and the individual. Provide examples of him treating his employees like trash?

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Provide examples of him treating his employees like trash?

Someone fairly recently wrote a very long article about it., but it is only the first drop in the ocean of stories google comes up with about how bad an employer he is.

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you on about? Every opportunity to trash him??? He can easily change his behaviour, he's a trash person so he doesn't. He absolutely wants to deny the poor their rights, look at how he treats the workers of twitter and how he spoke of those he fired. I truly don't know how you can be this blind unless it's willful. Get real

[–] JuliusSeizure@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Twitter shrunk its staff by 3700, many of whom left of their own volition. Examples of some companies that cut more jobs then Twitter that nobody seemed to givr a damn about: Amazon 27k Meta 21k Accenture 19k Alphabet 12k Microsoft 10k Salesforce 8k Disney 7k Dell 6.6k

I guess the people working at those companies just don't matter huh?

I don't see any other billionaires fighting for basic human rights like free speech other than Elon. He doesn't have a perfect track record on that count but it is better than the flat 0 of the rest of that clique.

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

HAHAHAHAHA you cannot be serious? Yes freeze peach warrior Elon. Get. Fucking. Real.

[–] JuliusSeizure@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Great contribution, gold star.

[–] vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Because you aren't worth it. You clearly ignore evidence being placed in front of your face so there isn't a point. Literally start googling about his management of twitter, all the evidence is there. But you won't

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ask people from India or Turkey what they think about Elon fighting for free speech. Especially after he said, "By “free speech”, I simply mean that which matches the law." Which means he's all in favor of what North Korea considers free speech.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You should really learn to separate claims with actions. Musk likes to claim he fights for free speech (well he used to, for some reason he hasn't really talked much about it lately), but he has not only done nothing in favour of them but actually opposed it during his ownership of twitter.

Also, I don't know what kinda gotcha you think you have with those layoff numbers. It is as if you think that people here just love all those other corporations and only hate Musk, when that is the opposite of the truth.

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wait, what? Have you ever heard of longtermism? "Your stupid peasants' suffering today matters little if we can take humanity to space^TM^. Don't hold back progress." If this is not enslaving humanity and shitting on the poor, I don't know what is.

[–] JuliusSeizure@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you even talking about? Care to elavorate? How is he making anyone suffer?

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you're sealioning, this is a waste of time :/ he's at least as scummy as any other billionaire, like Zucky, Bezos, Gates, Thiel and all the other ones nobody hears about.

[–] JuliusSeizure@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why do you think the media goes so hard after Elon and we don't hear much or anything at all about the others? Why is there a rabid cult of anti muskers that try to denigrate him at every opportunity? What is their agenda? When someone is singled out it should make you reflect on the reason why. He is hardly the worst billionaire around yet he gets all the flak.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Why do you think the media goes so hard after Elon and we don’t hear much or anything at all about the others?

Because the others stay out of the spotlight. Musk deliberately shitposts and wants to be seen, so the media (and everyone else) sees him and reacts to that.

But if you take your time to actually acquaint yourself with matters, you will notice that the media and everyone else are also very busy criticising other corporations and other billionaires. It is just that Musk being the narcissist that he is, very much like Trump, deliberately create stories on a daily basis through his poor judgement and constant craving for exposure.

[–] Gsus4@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The media drooled all over him and carried him until he declared war on them. Look up news of him before 2020, there is hardly anything negative (and there should be, he's been manipulating stock and treating employees like shit, like the other Billionaires). When did the media say anything critical about hyperloop? You live by hype, you die by hype.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He doesn't need to enslave humanity, just his Mars colony. As far as money over rights are concerned, his 'free speech absolutist digital town square' sure does give a lot more privileges for those willing to pay.

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Musk has openly stated his support for the Republicans and for right wing causes countless times during his twitter shitposting period. If anything he has more openly voiced support of enslavement of humanity and the denial of the rights of poors than most of his billionaire colleagues, who are mostly all too smart to voice those ideas anywhere in public.