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Gentle reminder to everyone that support for #windows10 ends in about 90 weeks. Many computers can't upgrade to Win 11 so here are your options:

  1. Continue on Win 10 but with higher security risks.
  2. Buy new and expensive hardware that supports Win11.
  3. Try a beginner friendly #Linux distro like #linuxmint. It only takes about two months to acclimate.

@nixCraft @linux @windowscentralbot

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[–] wersooth@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

it's gonna be "funny": I won't create a personal account to login to crap 11 (because why should I, if you can't login to a desktop OS without a 3rd party account, that's not an OS, but a gatekeeper shit), which is mandatory. So, my work machine will become unusable, therefore in fact Microsoft put my work therefore my livelihood in danger..... [edit: typos]

[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just this week I installed W11 on a laptop (temporarily, I just wanted to see how it ran on this hardware), and despite being connected to the it asked me, by default, for a username for the local account. I don't know why, but it didn't ask for a MS account first.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure this is configurable in the OOBE of the installer. At least, it used to be in older versions.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Was this a recent windows 11 version, from Microsoft directly? And what version of 11 (Home, Pro, etc) And what region?

The OOBE changes based on a lot of factors, but generally speaking, most users will encounter the forced account creation screen.

You can get around it by typing in "no@thanks.com" or some other bullshit. Or use the "Domain join instead" option, and then just...don't join it to a domain.

[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago

Genuine W11 iso, downloaded directly from MS website a few weeks ago, no modification. It was a Pro version if I remember correctly. I tested it on a 2015 Surface Pro. I was already connected to the network and did not click "Domain join" (I would have if it had asked for a MS account).

[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 1 points 9 months ago

Just an update because I just figured what happened: I booted the iso through Ventoy, and just saw today that by default Ventoy injects register entries to bypass the online account requirement (as well as the hardware checks). Good to know.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

It's not mandatory to have an account to run win11. Press shift+f10 during the install to open a command prompt. Enter OOBE\BYPASSNRO into the prompt, system will reboot, disconnect the internet, when it prompts you for internet click "I don't have internet".

[–] kariboka@bolha.forum 4 points 10 months ago
[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And why didn't they just do this as the default?

[–] peterf@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its to stop idiots downloading cat videos and infecting the system with ransomware.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

How does having a Live account prevent that?

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What happens if you don’t have internet connected in the first place?

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Without that command, it will not let you continue without an internet connection. If you do it a lot (I do it roughly once a week) then you can modify the installer directly.

[–] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

work machine

You do not need a Microsoft account to join a domain.

[–] peterf@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

if your sys admin keeps TPM on - and they would have to be nuts to turn it off - you'll be opening an account.