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Fuck Facists, never again (vimeo.com)

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People at Bonn protesting against Nazi cunts singing Ode to Joy

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[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Btw some crazy points from their program:
Abolish any inheritance tax

That not seems that crazy. I mean, someone lost his beloved one and in addition to his grieve he has to pay a tax. Right....

You lost your parents and you pay the state for the privilege to keep their inheritance... Sounds good this way ? (and no, to the rich people it change nothing)

“Landwirtschaft: Mehr Wettbewerb. Weniger Subventionen” Which translates to “More competition and less subsidies for agriculture” and still they manage to claim the farmer protests for them.

On this I have a double feeling. On one hand I have seen the disasters of the subsidies to the agricolture like the milk quotas and the farmer paid to not cultivate the field while importing product from outside, on the other hand this make sense only if you eliminate the unfair competition from outside and make everyone play by the same rules.

Kinds born in Germany should not have a chance to German citizenship if the parents do not have it. Regardless if they live their whole live here.

Stupid idea, I agree.

Ignore EU policies when convenient, reimplement border controls (or in other words, leave the EU)

As long as they are prepared to be ignored by the others... and no, border control does not means to leave the EU. It means check what and who enter in your country, because I don't see the problem with border controls that keep the illegal people and goods out of my country.

But I see what they mean and I agree with you.

Only grant asylum to people which can fill job roles where there is a provable gap in demand and local workforce.

Mmm... asylum should be granted only to people in danger for some serious reason, in other words it should be an exceptional case, not the norm. I agree it is really stupid to tie it to fact that who ask for it should be able can cover for a local workforce gap.

So yes, they have some very stupid ideas, but other does not seems too bad and I am sure that if some other parties would propose them in a better language they would be approved by a large part of the population.

But as long as the people (and who is in charge) don't understand that afd and all the parties like it are a consequence and not a cause the problem will be never solved.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just so you know, inheritance tax in Germany inly kicks in, if the inheritance is over 500.000 Euros and then it is 20% I believe. So your argument actually falls a tad short here.

Also the current competition in agriculture only promote the commulation of farms into companies. The farmers who actually need support don't get it, which further accelerates the industrialisation of farming. Which is what the protest is about, not that many farmers get that they are being exploited by their own lobbyists and the AfD.

Lastly, while the AfD has for some time been saying they want the EU to stay and Germany being part of it, they are now discussing a German Exit. As if that did any good for the UK. It would likely be even worse for Germany. My guess is, that they felt offended by Meloni for saying that they would not work with the AfD on anything.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 points 9 months ago

Just so you know, inheritance tax in Germany inly kicks in, if the inheritance is over 500.000 Euros and then it is 20% I believe. So your argument actually falls a tad short here.

I don't understand your point. I get that the limit is high but it does not make any difference: you lost your parent and you need to pay for the privilege to keep their inheritance. How many money you could or want to tax is irrelevant in my opinion. It is a tax that should be deleted for everyone.

Also the current competition in agriculture only promote the commulation of farms into companies.

Which can be not that bad to me

The farmers who actually need support don’t get it, which further accelerates the industrialisation of farming.

Maybe. But what the subsidies have done until now are only damages: they have not helped the farmers and have not stopped the industrialisation.
I don't really know what the solution could be but to me the subsidies are not the solution.

Lastly, while the AfD has for some time been saying they want the EU to stay and Germany being part of it, they are now discussing a German Exit. As if that did any good for the UK. It would likely be even worse for Germany

True, but this is a consequence, not the cause.

For example, why do you think that Meloni won last time ? Not because suddently 30% of the Italian population became fascist but because she aknowledged the problems people have and that the left (and the EU) choose to ignore. Remove the causes (read: do what is good for your people) and you remove the ones who want to destroy EU because people would not have a reason do destroy it.