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"Vladimir Putin is testing the waters on whether the U.S. is ready to engage in talks for ending Russia’s war in Ukraine,” Bloomberg reports.

“He’s put out feelers to the U.S. via indirect channels to signal he’s open to discussion, including potentially on future security arrangements for Ukraine, according to two people close to the Kremlin.”

“Hints of Russian openness to talks — even if disingenuous — could help sow division among Ukraine’s allies, isolating Kyiv and undermining President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s efforts to win support for his own peace formula, which calls for full Russian withdrawal.”

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[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 83 points 9 months ago (3 children)

including potentially on future security arrangements for Ukraine

Ukraine already signed a security, non-aggression arrangement with Russia back when they annexed Crimea. Russia violated that one, so why would Ukraine expect Russia to not violate this one?

[–] radix@lemmy.world 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Sure, we haven't kept any of the 1,000 previous promises, but this time is different. Trust me, bro."

[–] MajesticSloth@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Like an abusive manipulative ex.

[–] dditty@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Like Lucy with the football 🏈

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 39 points 9 months ago

That’s not even the big one, when Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons, Russia and America both said they would defend them.

Between Ukraine and Libya, who the fuck is ever gonna give up their nukes anymore?

[–] 50gp@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

exactly, any negotiations will not be in good faith at all and will be ignored in the future because are no consequences for breaking them