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NSA Director Paul Nakasone confirmed such purchases in his letter to Wyden, saying the data collected "may include information associated with electronic devices being used outside - and, in certain cases, inside - the United States."

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[–] CazRaX@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That might be a loophole since they aren't requesting it legally they are buying it like any other can.

[–] TheMongoose@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes. The answer to this isn't to restrict what the NSA can do, the answer is to stop people's privacy being a legally tradable commodity.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Most people don’t have any concept why their privacy matters.

And until something awful happens to them, they aren’t interested in learning it either.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

After something awful happens to them, they aren't interested in leading it either*

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The awful things haven’t happened to most people yet

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most people aren't interested in learning anything, which was a hard realization to come to as an adult.

[–] ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I felt so lied to when I left high school, having been told my entire life that people eventually grow up…. And now I’m 40ish and they really don’t.

[–] CazRaX@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I fully agree with that.

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc -5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Fyi, this was only possible since Trump made it legal

[–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What a load of shit.

Not only have they been doing this, blatantly, since the 2000’s (remember PRISM?), but even credit report agencies were originally setup in the 80’s to do exact this, and exploit this exact loophole for the government.

Did big scwary orange man bad do that, too?

[–] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ISPs weren't selling it then. Now its part of their business model. That's an important difference.

[–] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

ISP’s have been collecting and selling browser history since 2010 at least

Them was Obama years, iirc

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

IIRC that shit started in the mid to late 90s, so under Billy Clinton

[–] CazRaX@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

OMG, I don't care about which boogyman you fear, it would have happened eventually regardless of color in the position. Money and power speaks much louder than political party.