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People keep talking about "Federalizing the National Guard" and now you've got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I'm a Brit

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[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Florida State Guard

I had to search for that and it sounds kinda bad for states to have their own armies. I mean it's practically the definition of raising an army in opposition to the Federal government. Looking at Wikipedia it was first activated in WWII to make up for the national guard going to war.

That bit makes sense.

But you're not at war and you just reactivated it in 2020. Why? Why would Florida need it's own army? That'd be like the Wales FM creating it's own guard. By it's nature it's in direct opposition to the national (British) military. There's no other way of looking at it.

That feels like a major thing. Am I taking crazy pills - why is no one screaming? This is bad!!

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Am I taking crazy pills - why is no one screaming? This is bad!!

This dog stays barking every single year and hasn't bit anyone yet. Getting tired of hearing about it. Either they're going to do something or they won't, if they don't, then they can shut the fuck up and life goes back to normal. If they do decide to finally do something about it, Texas gets razed to the ground and we rebuild NASA somewhere else. There is no situation here in which any significant percentage of people, except Texans, are going to be in danger. They will not take on the greater federal US and win, it's not gonna happen. If they secede, they die, after losing all federal safety nets and trade agreements and then getting invaded by cartels. If they attempt an actual shooting war, they die, as 25,000 cowpokes show up with surplus AR's just in time for Lockheed Martin to put a warhead on their foreheads.

I want to be clear that I'm not in any way looking forward to this. It's going to be rough and innocent people will die. But there is no legitimate path forward in which Texas doesn't, at best, eat its hat. However that won't stop them from threatening secession constantly. Any time something doesn't go their way - "oh, oh, but I'll leave the union! What then??? What'll you do without Texas??" Fuck off Texas. Either shit or get off the pot but I'm tired of hearing about it. Texas brings nothing irreplaceable to the table and while I definitely do not think that turning Texas into glass is the good ending, it sure is one ending, and might be the one Texas chooses. Regardless I'm not that worried about it. The Gravy Seals wouldn't stand up to an actual well-regulated militia let alone the full force and might of the United States Army. And there are a lot more leftists with guns than the Gravies think there are.

Edit: just realized this was intended in the context of the Florida State Guard - that I know almost nothing about. But Florida is perhaps even less threatening than Texas, and since DeSantis has been in charge they've been doing a lot of nearly identical toothless posturing. All arguments also apply to Florida, except that at least 21% of their population is retirement age or older so they don't even have that many fresh bodies to call on when their state guard gets turned into burger meat within two days of declaration of war.

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I hate how people casually write about glassing innocent Americans as an acceptable outcome since it isn’t themselves and their families up for annihilation. “Let’s just get this killing over with it’s just too tedious for me to read about.”

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly I hate it too. This isn't the America I saw coming when I was younger. But it's also not like these are unforeseen consequences. Greg Abbott has fucked around and it has now come time to find out. It hurts my heart that innocent people are going to be caught up in the consequences of his actions, but such is the way of war. And Abbott is going to turn this into a war, make no mistake.

Poor men dying for the mistakes of rich men is a tale as old as time and we haven't left that era yet. I wish no harm on the common folk of Texas. But the unfortunate truth is that I'd expect the same in my state, if my state governor decried federal law in favor of murdering migrant children and then threatened secession from the union over it. Abbott is dangerously unstable and is taking Texas down with him. Texas can either rid themselves of this problem, through vote or otherwise, or they can go down with the sinking ship.

I'd much rather just remove and relocate the sensible folks until all that's left in Texas are the treasonous officials and their pet army, and solve this problem without collateral damage. But we all know very well that that isn't going to happen. They can and will use the lives of innocents to shield their own, just like terrorists always have, the world over. And to those people I say, I'm sorry. You don't deserve this. If your death does prove necessary I hope that it can help guide us to a brighter tomorrow, the same I'd hope for my own. But that's the reality of a terrorist warzone, is people will die, and the world keeps turning. There's no point trying to ignore it, in fact the more we actively ignore the situation the worse it's going to get before it gets any better. We need to cut the head from the snake before the snake poisons the rest of the country, or even world.

[–] smokin_shinobi@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yea you’re just as crazy as they are buddy.