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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It's always been funny to me how religious people, who follow their religious doctrine to the gritty details, are called "extremists" when they're the only ones actually following the doctrine.

You're either an extremist or a fuckin hypocrite who chooses to cherry pick which parts of the doctrine you choose to follow.

Either way their beliefs mean nothing to me and I'm absolutely fucking sick of hearing about whatever bullshit sky daddy they pray to.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fundamentalists don’t necessarily follow the tenets of the religion more accurately or thoroughly. They often have their own interpretations others disagree with, and pick and choose what to follow as much as the rest.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So you're either a hypocrite or a hypocrite.

Either way idgaf about which religion it's coming from. Religion has done nothing but cause problems in the modern world.

It's an ancient belief that just like geocentrism should be crushed with realism and scientific facts.

If your beliefs can't handle being destroyed by facts then they were never true to begin with and you're just lying to yourself.

(I'm using the royal you. I'm not attacking you personally)

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, if you tried to follow all the rules and teachings of old religions today, you'd definitely be breaking a lot of them just by going about your daily life. If you literally followed all the stuff from the bible, you could end up being punished for even just casually saying the name of another god according to Exodus 23:13 KJV.

I can see why people don't fully follow every teaching or rule if stuff like that is cannon, but at the same time can somewhat agree religion kinda seems ancient and outdated.

[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

If you literally followed all the stuff from the bible, you could end up being punished for even just casually saying the name of another god according to Exodus 23:13 KJV.

Following a text literally is not the same as following the actual teachings of a religion.

Any "Bible" most of us can read is a revision of a translation of a translation with the additional problem of being coloured by the opinion of whoever had control over subsequent versions. You cannot take it literally. Like, at all.

If you as a translator, publisher, king or whoever had influence over a major revision of "the bible" started out with a phrase to the effect of "you shouldn't follow other religions' teachings" and had a particular pet peeve for people speaking of other gods, you could easily arrive at a wording forbidding the "mention of the name of other gods". I'm not knowledgeable about this in the slightest and cannot make any solid assertions here (though if you look at i.e. the older Wycliff version it sounds a lot less specific) but rather want this to serve as an example for just how much room there is for error in such historical documents.

There is no authoritative and exact source on the beliefs of Christianism as many assume the bible to be.

[–] horsey@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Systems like Christianity are way too complex, ancient and far removed from modern society - the Ten Commandments were pretty concise, but then there’s so many other ‘do this, don’t do that’ rules and suggestions, in Leviticus for instance, plus then the New Testament which has some things that override the old one. Then it’s tied to this supernatural gibberish and tall tales and legends that barely make sense (Noah’s Ark, for example, or Jesus magically creating food and healing people), plus centuries of rationalizations of the contradictions (Trinity) and additions used to control people (eternal hellfire!). For a book supposedly dictated by a supreme being, the Bible sure could use a damned editor. Probably the whole thing should be scrapped, but newer religions aren’t much better, if at all.