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It's so ironic that California and New York, two beacons of progressivism have us those two turds.
Liberalism, not progressivism. There are big and important differences.
You're right about the rest though, of course.
It's both, can't have progress without liberty
Modern liberalism aka neoliberalism isn't really that much about progress, though. It's more about preserving the status quo and maybe a little Incrementalism if the owner donors allow it.
The liberties that liberals originally fought for hundreds of years ago are the floor of expected liberty now and neoliberalism is a center-right to right wing ideology.
Liberalism is a precursor to progressivism though. You can't make progress without it. You can't expect to be taken seriously this way.
In the same way as coal is a precursor to diamonds, sure. Doesn't mean that coal is useful for making jewelry today.
Like I said, you can't expect to be taken seriously this way. Deny it if you must,
Does that line ever convince anyone that you know the first thing about anything?
Because it sure isn't doing anything except making you look both ignorant and arrogant in this case 🤷
If I ever have to repeat it maybe I'll let you know. The point of it is not to convince anyone about me
Nope, just that they're not to be taken seriously if they disagree with your outdated notions of how politics work 🙄
I don't really care about your judgment at this point
Likewise, Dunning-Kruger Syndrome poster boy.
Then why the fuck are you still talking to me?
Combination of boredom and poor impulse control 🤷
Neoliberalism = liberalism I don't like
Neoliberalism is still center-right. The political spectrum in the US is so skewed to the right that center-right feels like a progressive position.
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Neoliberalism is the ideology of Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, both Clintons, and Biden, to name a few obvious examples.
A study that samples 148 different articles, I'm sure you reviewed a good selection of them before you came to a different conclusion than the study did, right?
It's not like you just named 6 very different politicians and claimed they're all the same because "neoliberal", that would be exactly my point.
Out of probably thousands if not tens of thousands available. Who did the study anyway? CAP?
No, I didn't waste my time studying a study that says neoliberalism is never described. Partially because I myself DID provide a nom-exhaustive but definitely not non-existent description of it earlier in this very thread.
Bernie, The Squad and Katie Porter are also very different. Still all adherents to progressivism
Nope. That's not what mentioning examples of different adherents of the same overall ideology is.
That I'm claiming that all neoliberals are identical? Congratulations on being even more wrong than your original false assumptions 🤦
If checking before you spout something incorrect is "wasting your time", then why should anyone take what you say seriously?
It took me way less long to check than it did to write this comment, who's wasting time here?
There are terrible people everywhere. California and New York have 10s of millions of residents - there are bound to be some that are shitstains. The problem is that money = power and when it's possible for one individual to have too much money, it inevitably means that terrible people will be able to amass this kind of power.
This is why wealth (in)equality is important - it's what determines how much powerful individuals are able to become. If it's too easy for a single person to amass too much power, inevitably, the wrong person will be able to gain it.