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‘Seismic shift’: driving unaffordable for many in US amid push toward SUVs
(www.theguardian.com)
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Thank you for finally admitting that you are a troll!
Imagine being such a worthless piece of shit that you argue with someone who wants a truck version of a car by constantly saying they want something other than they are literally saying. It probably helps if you are jobless and unable to make romantic connections with people because of your inability to maintain proper hygiene. That must really help with the personal need to rile up others so you can feel better about yourself while you cry yourself to sleep on the bare mattress you sleep on.
Oh, yeah, this conversation is super irrelevant. There is literally zero reason to have this conversation beyond the morbid fascination of seeing weirdos come out of the woodwork to be super offended that you said mean things about open beds. It's like flipping over a rock to see the bugs.
I mean, let's be honest, why else would anybody have an intricate, incensed conversation about whether the back of a van is covered with a bit of sheet metal or going commando? It's absolutely bonkers. Think about it. Think about it hard for a second.
Why would anyone shit on the idea of a car that is the same size, gets the same mileage, and is otherwise the same as a hatchback but with an open bed instead of a closed hatch? What kind of nut job would suggest a van and a second vehicle that would get the same fuel consumption as a solution? Think about it hard for a second.
Yeeeeah, you didn't quite get the thinking part done right, I think.
But also. My friend. Back seats. We've talked about this.
I don't need a backseat in this vehicle.
Cool.
So why are we having this conversation, then? Because that's great for you, but as a "optimal use case" as opposed to the "maximal use case", I'd say "seats" tends to rank pretty high the list of car features. For... you know, most people.
You would say that since you keep ignoring everything that I have written.
Would you tell someone who wants a SmartCar that they should get something with a backseat instead? What about the van with a sealed off cabin that was suggested, which would also have two seats but worse fuel economy in a larger package than what I want which is a car with a truck bed?
Honestly this keeps going because I am fascinated by how hard you have dug your heels in opposing a car with a truck bed for reasons that I have already explained are not relevant based on my prior ownership of a hatchback. And you will respond to this because you can't just admit maybe you were wrong in your assumptions. Like comically wrong, but it would be a travesty for someone to not fit your idea of an American who uses their lifted truck as a dick substitute.
Plus I have some time on my hands so will definitely be getting the last word in.
I'd tell someone with a SmartCar to get a monthly bus pass instead. And a bike, maybe. And a sense of self-awareness.
But also, yeah, failing that get a bigger car with a backseat. For sure. Maybe the one Smart make, if that's what they're into.
What I'm fascinated about is the "these are not relevant based on my prior ownership" bit, because... I'm not talking to you. I never talked to you. You popped up in here saying that the problem with pickups is they weren't making small ones, as if that was a systemic issue and then somehow this became about a specific car that you want to have that they don't make. Like you personally. As if my tangentially related point was an affront to this purchase that you want to make specifically.
I'm not sure that's a specifically American thing, because people in social media do tend to think everything is explicitly about them in particular, but man, when combined with the pickup thing it does sound... you know, arch.
What the fuck are you going on about now?
I refer you to my previous post, where I do the going on.
So someone who wants to buy a two seater car that is extremely convenient in the city because of the short wheelbase and excellent gas mileage should buy a bigger car for extra seats they don't need?
Why are you so angry about people not needing more than two seats that you insist they need a larger vehicle? Must be a wherever you are thing to think people shouldn't have preferences.
No, they should buy no car and instead buy a public transportation pass.
And a bycicle.
Again, I refer you to my previous post.
I refer you to my previous posts.