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It's a civil case.
Which is also why it's doomed to fail.
Wait, genocide charges in a civil court? What are they even trying to accomplish? I'm certainly not a lawyer, but that doesn't sound like it makes much sense.
As far as I know there's no way for members of the public to criminally charge the president under US system. What this accomplishes is drawing attention to the fact that Biden is complicit in a genocide.
Obviously it's doomed to fail, war criminals have never held to account in a totalitarian dictatorship like the US.
Just... wow.
If you disagree with my assessment, then perhaps you could provide an example of a US official being held accountable for the atrocities US commits.
But we're discussing your disagreement with my assessment that "charge" is willfully dishonest.
There's no disagreement, it's obvious that your assessment is sophistry meant to distract from the actual point being made. Nobody is falling for it.
What's obvious is that my assessment is probably correct. The lawsuit will fail because the "actual point being made" is not a legal point but a political one. And certainly not a criminal point.
ICJ just ruled that there is a probable case for genocide in Gaza, and there is clear evidence that US has been aiding and abetting this genocide since the start. US has vetoed multiple ceasefire resolution at the UN, and has provided Israel with the material aid to carry out the genocide. The only reason nobody in US will be held accountable for these atrocities is because US regime sees itself as being above international law. This is why a civil case is because there is no path to any actual justice.
But "charged"? Come on. That's clearly trying to obfuscate that it's a private lawsuit.
The article is pretty clear about the nature of the lawsuit. Using the word charged here is entirely reasonable. It's amazing that you spent so much energy debating an entirely irrelevant point while ignoring the actual context of Joe Biden aiding and abetting a genocide, or the fact that there is no path towards holding him accountable. That seems like the part that's actually worth discussing.
Can you believe I even read the lawsuit?! Crazy, I know!
The only thing that's crazy here is that you're evidently unable to say anything of substance on Tue subject.
The irony is almost palpable.
That word you're using, I do not think it means what you think it means. Although, I suppose there is a certain irony in you making vacuous comments while evidently fancying yourself an intellectual.
The irony is that you're the one failing to bring anything of substance to the discussion. For example, comments consisting solely of insults.
I'll let you get in the last word.