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He signed an executive order on Thursday, saying violence had reached "intolerable levels".

The sanctions will block the individuals from accessing all US property and other assets.

Violence in the West Bank has spiked since Hamas's 7 October attack on Israel.

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[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By literal genocide I think you mean "cultural genocide" and I think it is fairly immoral and inaccurate to believe that Hamas is a fundamental aspect of the Palestinian culture.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If the IDF hadn't killed 27,000 civilians and reduced aid imports to a point the UN is ringing the famine alarms then you'd have a point.

Unfortunately you're just trying to conflate Hamas and all Gazans

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Just to be clear, you are accusing Israel specifically of war crimes other than genocide in this last response.

Do you know what genocide is or are you just repeating a word because other people are?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nope. There's a ton of war crimes going on, but they all add up to genocide. You don't get to create a false either/or, and the definition of Genocide is set in international law. Not your head.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, no? Genocide isn't defined as something like, "5 or more war crimes put together equals genocide,"

So I agree with you that you can't just invent a definition to genocide which is why I find your comment so ironic and I highly suggest looking up the definitions used by the people who will be trying this case.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say any 5 war crimes. I said these war crimes. Again, you misrepresent reality to argue in bad faith.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago

Well 5 was an example? But clearly you think it is less.

How few war crimes does it take to equal a genocide in pretenland?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Do you? You haven't stated what you think they are. Luckily, we have South Africa's presentation that makes the case this is:

https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k11/k11gf661b3

And we have the ICJ's Ruling that Israel is plausibly committing genocide:

https://webtv.un.org/en/asset/k1u/k1uwq4cxuv

Stop being such an obvious fucking sophist. Whoever is paying you isn't getting their money's worth.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

" the Jews are comitting genocide and the liberal world order is helping them and anybody who questions me is on the payroll."

Just keep flooding my inbox with variation of this and eventually you might beat me into submission. Could it plausibly happen? Sure. I wouldn't expect it though

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to beat you into submission.

I'm trying to make sure that when someone sees a comment of yours trying to deny genocide, that someone sees evidence immediately that you are factually wrong.

Of course, I know you're paying in bad faith, but here I just have you exactly what you asked for, and yet, you just move the topic of conversation. Good job, sophist.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, I didn't realize accusing people of being paid genocide deniers was the behavior of somebody not attempting to silence the opposition.

If you can't present your case without bad faith tactics, you clearly don't have a case or you morally are not the person to be presenting it.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I literally have with the links you requested, implying I was lying if I didn't.

You ignored that. Do you recognize now that the ICJ has ruled that Israel is plausibly committing genocide, or is the Hague and NPR antisemitic?

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Plausible in the ICJ's context means reasonable to inquire into. Plausible in your case means certainly happening no inquiry required.

But your case so far stands solely on changing the term genocide to just mean war crimes and the term plausible to mean certainly.

I'm not sure that's the correct thing to do in the situation.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Tell that to the 10000, minimum, murdered children, you blood thirsty fuck.

I know that they are your last priority.

You've made it clear your first priority is defending the nation that murdered them that has a leader literally calling them Amaleks, a tribe that God ordered to be slain to the last women and child.

Go wash the blood off your sophistry somewhere else.

EDIT: Plausible means plausible. You're literally comparing anyone who uses the word Genocide to Hitler. That implies that someone making that comparison is doing something so implausible that the only explanation is antisemitism. Instead of, you know, believing their lying eyes.

You're a disgusting propagandist. And you're not very good at it, either.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you are lying on behalf of the children?

Look, I think your heart is in the right place, but being an inept soldier in a propaganda war directed at western leftists.isn't actually accomplishing anything in this situation.

I'm sure it makes you feel amazing to be a part of though.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The only person lying here is you.

And also, you took the insults I had for you in my last message and changed the wording a bit. This isn't your homework, be more original.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

How are insults helping the Palestinian children?

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

" the Jews are comitting genocide and the liberal world order is helping them and anybody who questions me is on the payroll."

Just keep flooding my inbox with variation of this and eventually you might beat me into submission. Could it plausibly happen? Sure. I wouldn't expect it though.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm flooding your inbox with what you literally asked for.

Funny how you just keep posting your genocide denial.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have 3 other people who have been behaving in the exact same way, replying to my comments from my comment feed and not from their own inboxes.

Is Gish galloping an agreed upon tactic or did you all naturally decide on your own to employ it?

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've never heard of gish.

Giving you the links you asked for when you bullied me by accusing my recognition of genocide as antisemitic is defending myself and pointing out your bad faith.

[–] bramblepatchmystery@slrpnk.net 1 points 10 months ago

Did I ever actually accuse you of being an antisemite? Forgive me but there has been so many I'm talking to that I'm trying my best to keep you all straight.

I'm not sure if you are an antisemite, but you are repeating a thousands year old conspiracy so I do need to fully parse through your claims to ensure antisemitism is not happening. I apologize to you for that, but the people who came before you with these claims were essentially always history's bad guys.

You should want us fully verifying you are what you claim to be before we support you.