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[–] thatfuckinglinuxguy@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're welcome to have your own opinions. But I think actions speak louder than words

And so far, based on their actions, IMO they are being a bit elitist. They can prioritize whatever they want... But by doing so, it becomes clear that they are not interested in the users leaving reddit, so I will not pity them when those users end up elsewhere.

Then again, I am not in the "p.c. language" camp - as anyone who bothered to read my screen name can tell immediately - and am probably not in the demographic they're going for anyway.

[–] noodlejetski@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're welcome to have your own opinions

wow, much generous. it's not "my opinion" though, it's something Beehaw's owners have stated multiple times over the past however long have I had an account there.

But I think actions speak louder than words

you mean, like an action of not prioritizing growth?

it becomes clear that they are not interested in the users leaving reddit

they're interested in forming their own community. they're not trying to become a replacement for reddit and never have.

Then again, I am not in the "p.c. language" camp

https://i.vgy.me/WvmUNs.jpg

[–] thatfuckinglinuxguy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it's not "my opinion" though, it's something Beehaw's owners have stated multiple times over the past however long have I had an account there.

Your opinion or theirs. It's obvious that you agree with it. I'm not trying to persuade you to have a different opinion. I really don't care.

I do appreciate you not hiding the fact that you are a member there.

But my point is that just because they give some rationale that sounds good at first glance, that doesn't mean that I am incorrect either.

I think any group that is restricting registration of new users - regardless of their goals or justification - is being elitist because it is restricting to only people some select few in charge deem "worthy" or in some cases, such as tildes random invite drops with extremely short time-windows, are more likely to gather users in particular time zones/regions. Maybe you dislike me using the term "elitist" for this but to my thinking, they are essentially trying to create echo chambers and are considering large segments of the Internet population as undesirables. They can put a marketing spin on that and call it "weeding out racists" or creating a safe space whatever they want but it doesn't change the underlying facts. I see plenty of sites that avoid these kind of things without resorting to such exclusionary tactics.

And if this comes across as me trying to pin that solely on beehaw, that's not my intent. I feel equally so about tildes. Again, you may disagree. That's fine. I don't care either way. I am very passionate about free speech, even for those I dislike and disagree with. And it is less that I wish to look down on beehaw/tildes/etc and more that currently, my opinion of them is that they are promoting censored communities, which is something I am opposed to. Perhaps that isn't actually the case, or maybe they will change things. My opinion isn't set in stone, and I am happy to revise it if and when new information presents itself. But as things stand now, that is how I see things.

https://i.vgy.me/WvmUNs.jpg

Heh good one. Meant it more in the sense that they would probably not allow such a name there but yes, let's go with me trying to be "edgy" ;-)

Anyway, as I said in my previous comment, I am not advocating to defederate with them. But if they later get butthurt about something on kbin and decide to defederate us, I doubt that I would even spare it a thought.

Edit: typos