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[–] zerkrazus@lemmy.world 212 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As all billionaires are. Along with unempathetic sociopathic psychopaths.

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't fathom having the power to save our at least change millions of lives...but instead choose to leech more wealth from the people that need it most. And systematically make the world worse. It's a sickness.

There are no good billionaires.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would build SO much low income, homeless, and transition housing. I would also start my own line of bamboo products and packaging to replace plastic.

[–] kklusz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The most important part of what you said is that you’d build “SO much” housing. If we’d just let the free market build all the housing it wants without letting NIMBYs get in the way, we’d have largely solved the housing crisis.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except we already have more houses than there are homeless people. The problem is the empty houses have ridiculous price tags due to corporate landlords and landlords refusing the sell and only rent (also at ridiculous prices)

[–] kklusz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vacancy rates in the places where people actually want to live are really low. Besides, are people not allowed to have vacation homes?

Market price is a function of supply and demand. We’ve been under building housing for years.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alright but life never promised anyone these luxuries. I don't give a fuck if someone can't have a vacation home because it means more people without one can have one. People act like freedom to do whatever the hell they want no matter how negatively it effects everyone else is their universal right. The Universe doesn't give a fuck about your summer home, nature doesn't give a fuck that you worked hard to get it. It will all be swallowed all the same if our main goal still is not perpetual survival. That may be authoritarian, but it is also the truth. We never left the game of survival we just plastered concrete and asphalt on top of it and pretended we were removed.

[–] kklusz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Universe doesn’t give a fuck about your summer home, nature doesn’t give a fuck that you worked hard to get it.

Nor does the universe care about your sense of fairness or lack of understanding of econ 101. Keep restricting supply while demand increases, and watch what happens. Oh wait, we’ve already seen what happens, and yet we refuse to acknowledge it.

So be it. A population deserves the problems it gets.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I never said supply wasn't an issue. I said people are out here acting like they are owed luxury and that has never been true nor will it ever be. We all know zoning laws and supply restrictions for profit are what got us here. Do you think any of the lobbyists receiving money from these corps are gonna let it go? No.

Edit: and econ101 doesnt matter when the supply is kept artificially low through corporate welfare, consolidation, and lobbying.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Dude is either trolling or brainwashed. You’ll never get through to them.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

We all know zoning laws and supply restrictions for profit are what got us here.

Ah, OK. But then "there's more empty houses than homeless people" argument doesn't make sense.

and econ101 doesnt matter when the supply is kept artificially low through corporate welfare, consolidation, and lobbying.

WDYM it doesn't? It works as expected.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, a population can't deserve anything, an individual can. But yes, you are correct.

Keep restricting supply while demand increases, and watch what happens. Oh wait, we’ve already seen what happens, and yet we refuse to acknowledge it.

Sadly humans are apes and thus they are not really looking for science to tell them what they don't know, they want it to confirm what they'd like to think.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, one can build it NITBY, just with functioning public transport to TBY, so that it could function. There's plenty of available space on the planet.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Then you'd go bankrupt and stop supporting your "so much" housing, unless you'd gift it to those people, not give as a temporary service.

Bamboo - a nice idea. Actually I'm not sure it's that hard for you to do even now. I'm serious, if you know the pipeline, then try to evaluate how much a start would cost (for it to be barely profitable). You need, well, bamboo itself (grows like a virus, shouldn't be a problem), and on the process of making stuff from bamboo I'm not sure (I think it involves making some kind of pulp and then pressure?..), but humans do this kind of thing. Should probably start with dishes and cups.

[–] mtnwolf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Modern billionaires are the manifestation of the rampant consumerism of the masses. Want to do your part against the billionaires? Start with consuming less. Buy less. Move toward minimal.

[–] Kantiberl@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That may be the most tautological sentence I've ever read.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well yeah. If you weren't sociopathic, you wouldn't be holding onto all of your money, but would instead be trying to help people with it.

[–] paintbucketholder@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Being a billionaire means having the means to help millions of people, and deciding to instead keep all that money for yourself.

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Being a billionaire means using it to acquire more money which provides more power which provides more control. Shit floats to the top.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Not necessarily. It may be optimization between what you give now and what you keep for later to make more, with the total effect on others' well-being being the criterion. I mean, theoretically.

If you make a dime and immediately give it away randomly, you are making a worse decision than keeping it by this criterion. If you immediately give it away not randomly, but to somebody you think needs it, still possibly worse because you could try and make much more and then, say, open a pharmaceutical company.

Say, with cattle you'd use some for meat and some to make more cattle to feed more people. You wouldn't just slaughter the whole herd for meat. It's worse.

[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

You can’t be sociopathic and psychopathic - they’re different points on the same (ASPD) spectrum. Please learn what words mean before throwing them around.