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[–] doctorcrimson 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I understand it's a joke but there are villains out there using flipper zero to mess with people's glucose monitors and heart implants, so the underlying context of this meme isn't very funny. They should not be misused, they can become weapons.

[–] DriftinGrifter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 91 points 9 months ago (4 children)

If a stupid ass flipper zero can mess with those devices then the security testing done is zero and the fault lies mostly with the manufacturer (the flipper zero script kiddie is still partially at fault)

[–] doctorcrimson 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure sure, manufacturing regulatory standards need to improve, but that doesn't change that flipper zeroes aren't toys and we shouldn't even joke about misusing them.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They may not be toys but they don't do anything your phone can't do

[–] Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My phone won’t let me arbitrarily transmit over its radios. My phone also won’t let me load custom forked firmware for even more control over its hardware functions which were barely locked down to begin with, but that’s more of a “choose the right tool for the job” kind of thing.

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I mean, maybe your phone won't.

[–] CaptnNMorgan@reddthat.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you not really Greek or a girl?

[–] FakeGreekGirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, kinda both, I suppose.

My dad was Greek, but he was adopted and brought to America at a very young age, and his adoptive parents were not Greek, so he was rather completely divorced from Greek culture. I like to consider myself Greek, but I don't have as much connection to it as I'd like.

And, well, I've been questioning my gender for a while, so I decided to make this account to try on a more feminine persona. So far, all I've really figured out is that girl me is much more into memes than boy me was.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 9 months ago

That's kind of a wholesome story, thanks for sharing ❤️

Well i guess that depends on the phone. I fore example have a custom rom wich definitely gives me more control over my phones harware functions.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 13 points 9 months ago

This always reminds me of Xiaomi "smart" devices that will ask you for a password, but password is only in the interface so if someone connects to the device and sends a command directly the device will oblige.

Sure, that's not as critical as medical devices, but it feels like everything nowadays is manufactured with the same mindset: if I don't know this might become a problem, I ignore it

[–] ChewTiger@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

True, but that doesn't excuse messing with people's lifesaving health devices. They use them because they have to, not because they want to.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Which it most likely will because if we know one thing about companies musk is involved in is that they usually cut safety and regulatory Jobs first

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is anyone actually out there doing these things in the wild to unsuspecting people or are you just talking about like using it to demonstrate such things?

[–] doctorcrimson 12 points 9 months ago

There are reported cases of MedTronic Insulin Pumps being accessed by hackers, and there were also 500,000 St Jude Medical Pacemakers recalled (they don't surgically remove the implanded devices, just updated the firmware).

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The most worrying part is that a few old hotel door locks can apparently be broken into with it. IIRC they intentionally limited the flipper zero to only doing basic stuff through software, other projects with similar hardware can get into more secure systems (i don't remember exactly where I read this but there was one specific protocol I think)