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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 183 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (33 children)

The problem is the way the system is rigged.

Kroger is a publicly traded company, their stock price right now is 46.71 / share.

You can see their most recent earnings report here:

https://ir.kroger.com/news/news-details/2023/Kroger-Reports-Third-Quarter-2023-Results-and-Updates-Guidance/default.aspx

Operating Profit of $912 million; EPS of $0.88

Now then... for NEXT quarter... It doesn't matter if they are profitable or not. Because they are publicly traded, they are going to be expected to make MORE profit than they did this quarter.

Let's say next quarter they "only" have $890 million in profit... Most of us would KILL to be that profitable.

The stock market analysts will look at it and go "yeah, but you 'lost' $22 million from last quarter..." and they will punish Kroger for failing.

Even worse...

Let's say Kroger raised their prices and pulls in a profit of $915 million next quarter... they can STILL get punished if the market goes "Yeah, but our analysts expected you to bring in $921 million in profit."

Failing to meet or beat "expectations" is just as bad as raking in less of a profit than last time.

So prices go up, because they have to make more money than the same time last month, last quarter, last year.

[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (12 children)

abolish the stock market. put these hogs on a fucking island with no natural resources but sand and salt water. set up a camera and let us watch.

[–] Econgrad@lemmings.world 1 points 8 months ago

You should absolutely not abolish the stock market because it's the single way most average people have to becoming wealthy. What you should do is change how it operates. Here's a novel idea I've had for a long time.

Make more and more companies worker co-ops going forward by incentivizing them the attacks credits and local government health in getting them started. Preserve 75% of the company for the people who actually work there which is what makes it a worker's co-op.

Reserve 25% of the company for speculation on Wall Street and to raise capital if they need to.

This way you can have sort of a socialist economy that avoids abuses and a stock market at the same time that provides liquidity and efficiency.

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