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Personally, I'm not a fan of either, so it's always been a little interesting to me to run into people that are more averse to hearing a recording of their voice.

(Also is there a dedicated term for audio-only voice recordings? 🤨)

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[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think there's another aspect that people haven't really pointed out yet: that most speakers and microphones are trash. With cameras and screens, we've gotten really good at capturing real life in pictures and then displaying those pictures. But microphones and speakers are fundamentally limited by physics. And most microphones and speakers that everyday people would have access to are limited by physics to be awful at picking up sounds accurately.

Try listening to the same song on a desktop speaker vs. earphones. Earphones just simply don't reproduce the song to the same quality as the desktop speakers. They are terrible at reproducing low tones, and the balance is usually wack. Or, for instance, try talking to a friend via a Zoom call vs. talking in person. You can pretty easily tell the difference. You can get expensive equipment to capture and reproduce sounds more accurately, which is what streamers and youtubers tend to do, but then that's very expensive and not really something that ordinary people would be willing to invest in.

That's not to say that the other responses are wrong and that the resonance of the jawbone doesn't affect how we perceive our own voices (they're correct, and the resonance does affect our own perception), but simply saying that it's just the resonance is missing out on the crucial detail that our voice recordings are fundamentally trash to begin with.

As an analogy, you can try taking a selfie using an old laptop's front-facing camera. You probably won't like how you look either - you'd look either sickly pale or drunken red, eyebags appear out of nowhere, the distortion of the lens makes you look fat. All of these qualities aren't because you are any of these things in real life. It's simply that laptop cameras are bad. Same is true for microphones and speakers.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This seems backwards. Most desktop speakers are shit. If you're into headphones at all you hopefully will have some that sound better.

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That is not correct. Headphones encompasses a variety of methods of putting speakers next to ears. Earphones are one of many types of headphone. Or actually more than one because colloquially some people refer to a few different form factors of headphones that way. IEMs for example are often also referred to as earphones. Language is sloppy like that.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but they were making the point that most people use the earphone variety of headphone, so when you countered with the fact that headphones in general are better, it missed the mark. I have nice headphones, and yes, they're better than desktop speakers, but my wife is still using some cheap raycons she got because they sponsored a youtuber she likes back in 2019, and that's the much, much larger demographic.

If you ask someone on the street to show you their headphones, the vast majority will pull out a $20 in-ear set, or at best some airpods. People care a lot less about sound quality than you might expect, and prefer the convenience of a small, wireless pod over a nice pair of quality headphones.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

As an analogy, you can try taking a selfie using an old laptop’s front-facing camera. You probably won’t like how you look either - you’d look either sickly pale or drunken red, eyebags appear out of nowhere, the distortion of the lens makes you look fat. All of these qualities aren’t because you are any of these things in real life. It’s simply that laptop cameras are bad. Same is true for microphones and speakers.

I think you make a good point with the hardware aspects of this, and on this last point I can't help but be a little amused, as while it's often very true, personally I sometimes prefer the lower res quality of a laptop camera as it can help obfuscate some of the finer details I don't much care for. It's basically a hardware lo-fi filter, and I appreciate it not catching every pore. 😂