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Thousands of authors demand payment from AI companies for use of copyrighted works::Thousands of published authors are requesting payment from tech companies for the use of their copyrighted works in training artificial intelligence tools, marking the latest intellectual property critique to target AI development.

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[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Because AIs aren't inspired by anything and they don't learn anything

[-] r1veRRR@feddit.de 17 points 11 months ago

So uninspired writing is illegal?

[-] dan@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

No but a lazy copy of someone else’s work might be copyright infringement.

[-] Odusei@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

So when does Kevin Costner get to sue James Cameron for his lazy copy of Dances With Wolves?

[-] dan@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Idk, maybe. There are thousands of copyright infringement lawsuits, sometimes they win.

I don’t necessarily agree with how copyright law works, but that’s a different question. Doesn’t change the fact that sometimes you can successfully sue for copyright infringement if someone copies your stuff to make something new.

[-] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Avatar is not Dances with Wolves. It's Ferngully.

[-] tenitchyfingers@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Why not? Hollywood is full to the brim with people suing for copyright infringement. And sometimes they win. Why should it be different for AI companies?

[-] lily33@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Language models actually do learn things in the sense that: the information encoded in the training model isn't usually* taken directly from the training data; instead, it's information that describes the training data, but is new. That's why it can generate text that's never appeared in the data.

  • the bigger models seem to remember some of the data and can reproduce it verbatim; but that's not really the goal.
[-] Chailles@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

What does inspiration have to do with anything? And to be honest, humans being inspired has led to far more blatant copyright infringement.

As for learning, they do learn. No different than us, except we learn silly abstractions to make sense of things while AI learns from trial and error. Ask any artist if they've ever looked at someone else's work to figure out how to draw something, even if they're not explicitly looking up a picture, if they've ever seen a depiction of it, they recall and use that. Why is it wrong if an AI does the same?

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