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So I just discovered that I have been working next to the waste of oxygen that raped my best friend several years ago. I work in a manufacturing environment and I know that you can't fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US). But despite it being a primarily male workforce he does work with several women who have no idea what he is. He literally followed a woman home, broke into her house, and raped her. Him working here puts every female employee at risk. How is that not an unsafe working environment? How is it at even legal to employ him anywhere where he will have contact with women?

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[–] kirklennon@kbin.social 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

I know that you can’t fire someone just for being a sex offender unless it directly interferes with work duties (in the US)

You can definitely fire someone for being a sex offender in the US. Outside of a few exceptions that probably don't apply in your case, you can also fire someone for being merely an accused sex offender.

You can also fire someone for laughing in a weird way, or wearing a color you don't like, or being born on a Monday when you don't like Mondays.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

people don't think it be like it is but it do.

anti-discrimination laws just mean employers can't give the real reason so they've gotten really good at making up legally acceptable reasons.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

And in ~~right to work~~ "at-will" states, not even that much.

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You're thinking of at-will employment states. Right to work is about joining unions and making that difficult.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Ah right. Thank you for pointing that out.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“Right to work” means employees can work in a union shop and receive the benefits of such without having to join the union or pay dues. It’s a set of laws that have successfully destroyed unions.

You’re thinking of “at will” employment laws, which means an employer can fire an employee for any reason or for no reason, but not for an illegal reason (which varies depending on state but includes the right to organize and rights against discrimination and retaliation).

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, of course. Thank you for pointing that out.

[–] SatanicNotMessianic@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sorry - I should have realized others would point that out as well. I didn’t mean to pile on.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

No worries, I assumed it was done in good faith and appreciated the heads up. Thanks!

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You mean "at-will" states and that functionally means any state but Montana.

[–] BottleOfAlkahest@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Many US based companies also do pre-employment background checks. So either OP works for a company that doesn't or they work for a "second chance" company that is OK with violent backgrounds. Either way the company is fine with his background and is very unlikely to fire him for something they likely knew about at hire.

[–] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago

In the US you can be fired for any reason except for protected reasons (gender, sexuality, race, religion). Being a convicted sex offender is not a protected class.

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago

In an at-will state, which I think is most or all of them.

Right-to-work is different; it means you can't be required to join a union in order to take a job.

[–] tjhart85@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago

In a right to work stste

Some cities and counties have additional protections, but at the state level, the only one that's not at-will is Montana and the entire population of that state would fit in a single decently sized city. So, I think that's a distinction that wasn't really necessary, but you do you.