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Waymo issued a recall after two robotaxis crashed into the same pickup truck (www.engadget.com)

submitted 9 months ago by GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Last year, two Waymo robotaxis in Phoenix "made contact" with the same pickup truck that was in the midst of being towed, which prompted the Alphabet subsidiary to issue a recall on its vehicles' software. A "recall" in this case meant rolling out a software update after investigating the issue and determining its root cause.

In a blog post, Waymo has revealed that on December 11, 2023, one of its robotaxis collided with a backwards-facing pickup truck being towed ahead of it. The company says the truck was being towed improperly and was angled across a center turn lane and a traffic lane. Apparently, the tow truck didn't pull over after the incident, and another Waymo vehicle came into contact with the pickup truck a few minutes later. Waymo didn't elaborate on what it meant by saying that its robotaxis "made contact" with the pickup truck, but it did say that the incidents resulted in no injuries and only minor vehicle damage. The self-driving vehicles involved in the collisions weren't carrying any passenger.

After an investigation, Waymo found that its software had incorrectly predicted the future movements of the pickup truck due to "persistent orientation mismatch" between the towed vehicle and the one towing it. The company developed and validated a fix for its software to prevent similar incidents in the future and started deploying the update to its fleet on December 20.

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[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The description of an unexpected/(impossible) orientation for an on road obstacle works as an excuse, right up to the point where you realize that the software should, explicitly, not run into anything at all. That’s got to be, like, the first law of (robotic) vehicle piloting.

It was just lucky that it happened twice as, otherwise, Alphabet likely would have shrugged it off as some unimportant, random event.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Billionaires get to alpha test their software on public roads and everyone is at risk.

[+] nivenkos@lemmy.world -18 points 9 months ago (6 children)

It's great though - that's how you get amazing services and technological advancement.

I wish we had that. In Europe you're just stuck paying 50 euros for a taxi in major cities (who block the roads, etc. to maintain their monopolies).

Meanwhile in the USA you guys have VR headsets, bioluminescent houseplants and self-driving cars (not to mention the $100k+ salaries!), it's incredible.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lol I appreciate your enthusiasm for the USA but grass is always greener.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Bruh in the US of A the grass is greener because it's made of polypropylene and spray painted green. Just don't smell it, or look too hard.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago

Most of us are in poverty, I dont know when but we're in another gilded age and just like the last was underneath the gold is rusty iron.

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah it's $40 for an Uber in Columbus or Cleveland as well. There isn't a monopoly on taxis creating that price, thats just how much it actually costs to rent a car for cross city travel.

If you want a no regulations/free market at the helm, you want to move to India. They have all the rules you love.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bioluminescent house plants are cool but as an American I can tell you right now that my luxury bones hurt.

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I can tell you right now that my luxury bones hurt.

That's the same in Europe though, dentistry isn't covered on public insurance in the UK, Spain, Sweden, etc.

But we have even less net salary to cover it when there are problems.

[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

True, but your savings on non-luxury bones helps with the fees associated with luxury ones, I'm sure. I can't do anything for my bones with a $30 glowing petunia.

[–] redfox@infosec.pub 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I appreciate/understand your envy. I'm not sure why everyone disagrees so much unless they have also lived under similar constraints.

Unless sarcasm.

Also agree with it might be perception or grass is greener like other comment 😉

[–] HappyRedditRefugee@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

We have something like that here too: MOIA in Hamburg.

[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

I didn't read it as them saying "therefore this isn't a problem," it was an explanation for why it happened. Think about human explanations for accidents: "they pulled out in front of me" "they stopped abruptly". Those don't make it ok that an accident happened either.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It should of course not run into anything, but it does need to be able to identify obstacles at the very least for crash priority when crazy shit inevitably happens. For instance, maybe it hits a nice squishy Pomeranian that won't cause any damage to itself instead of swerving to avoid it and possibly totalling itself by hitting a fire hydrant.

Or maybe it hits the fire hydrant instead of a toddler.

At any rate, being able to identify an obstacle and react to unexpected orientations of those obstacles is something I think a human driver does pretty well most of the time. Autonomous cars are irresponsible and frankly I can't believe they're legal to operate.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I can't believe they're legal to operate.

That's the neat part. They aren't always legal. It doesn't stop them.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-dmv-calls-ubers-autonomous-autos-illegal-1481761533

[–] ___@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

It would have been a different article if two waymos decided to take a wrong turn off a cliff.