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Georgia Senator Vows to Protect Girl, But Then Runs Away After Learning She Is Trans (www.erininthemorning.com)

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During a visit to lobby legislators on transgender issues, Senator Carden Summers (R) knelt down and told a child he would protect her. When he learned she was trans, he backed away.

On Feb. 6, a group of families met to lobby senators on issues affecting the local transgender community in Georgia. One mother, Lena Kotler, decided to take her two children with her to give the topic a human face. While waiting to meet with Democratic Sen. Kim Jackson, who they had heard was a big supporter of LGBTQ+ rights, another senator passed by — Republican Sen. Carden Summers, the primary sponsor of the state’s bathroom ban bill. Little did he know that one of the children he would be interacting with, Aleix, 8 years old, was a transgender child.

According to Kotler and other families who were present, the senator stopped to say hello. That’s when Kotler spoke to Senator Summers about how she was there with her kids to “talk to legislators about keeping her kids safe.” Although she did not mention that one of her children was trans, they were present with LGBTQ+ signage - something the Senator apparently missed when he knelt down in front of Aleix and said, according to Kotler, “Well you know, we’re working on that and I’m going to protect kids like you.”

Kotler then replied, “Yeah - Alex is trans, and she wants to be safe at school, she wants to go to the bathroom and be safe.”

That is when, according to multiple witnesses, Sen. Summers stood up and fumbled his words, repeating, "I mean, yeah, I'm going to make sure she's safe by going to the right bathroom," continuing to use the correct pronouns for Aleix. When asked if he would make her go to a boy's bathroom, he then allegedly backed away, saying, "You're attacking me," turned around, and walked off quickly.

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[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm not going to argue the point that homosexuality and at least the modern interpretation of the Christian faith are adversarial at best but the Bible is anything but clear on anything let alone LGBTQ. You quoted one of dozens of different English translations let alone any other language. Hell in one of the most popular translations, the King James Bible, the man had the word "tyrant" removed from it so the peasants wouldn't get ideas

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Completely disagree. The Bible is clear on almost nothing except the LGBT. All the games of translations won't change the repeated commandments of the OT against the LGBT, the endorsement of the rules of Moses by Jesus, the repeated and clear statements by Paul, the +20 centuries of understanding of the meaning of those OT passages, or how Christianity has traditionally understood them.

Yeah I quoted KJV. So what? Here is as many translations as you want

https://biblehub.com/romans/1-26.htm

Stop apologizing for the text, you know what it says. You know why Sodom was destroyed, you know why Jonathan's "friend" was described as such, you know what Elijiah said about the destruction of Sodom, you know what Leviticus says twice about consensual LGBT relationships, you know what Deuteronomy says about the trans and what Leviticus says, you know what Paul said twice, you know what famous commentary writers like Philo said, and you know that Jesus consistently supported the sexual norms of his culture and argued they didn't go far enough.

I did the same thing you did when I was finding my way out of religion. "It wasn't really slavery", "it wasn't really genocide", "it wasn't really anti-gay",.... I didn't want to believe what was right on the page. The Abrahamic religions have been clear and are still clear to this day about what their texts say. They are irredeemably hateful.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. I think the Bible in any form we can understand it in today is utterly meaningless and is impossible to apply practically to any situation regardless of context. It can't be used by bigots to justify their hatred of any given minority and it can't be used to globally define the Christian ethos.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

But it is used. This is not on me. They are the ones dragging this book into our time. All I am doing is pointing out what the book actually says.

Sure you can make the argument that the Bible is a product of Christianity and not a blueprint for it. Hence the text does not have to be followed and you can still be a Christian. Now who is making that argument? I certainly have never heard anyone who identified as a Christian make it. The very closest are the Catholics who at least are willing to admit the text isn't perfect which is really not in the same ballpark.

Live by the sword die by the sword right? Ok well they have made their religion about their book. I didn't tell them to do that, they choose that. So turns out the book is shit. What does that make their religion?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What is the field or area of inquiry that focuses on in inconsistencies like that? What is him removing the word tyrant reprrsentative of in terms of a field that exists to root out that kinda bullshit?

Like biblical scholasticism or like what focuses on examining the original language primary text and comparing the authenticity/integrity of the translated comparison target?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Textual analysis is the blanket term. There isn't really primary text, there are a bunch of slightly different ones that get combined together. What's more the process seems to have started way in the beginning. The first gospel shows signs of being multiple texts/traditions that were combined.

[–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I don't think the Bible was even written down or at least there aren't any surviving copies from that time. This seems to be the oldest copy of the Bible, it's in Greek and from the fourth century. So it's already been translated and it's from at least 300 years after Jesus died. So we'll never really know what "the original Bible" said.