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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If both parties are reasonable people, there’s nothing wrong with vacating your seat so someone can have it if you’re done with that seat. It depends on how she asked because you’re not entitled to kindness or generosity if you’re a bully or rude. Since he seemed to have mind it, I am guessing either she asked rudely or he perceived rudeness in her ask.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It depends on how she asked

Everyone is saying this, but OP put the exact quote in quotation marks and it is clearly not friendly at all in any situation.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I agree if that’s literally all she said, or I don’t know if he cut her sentence and only used the bit in his post that offended him.

I just know that sometimes if you look a certain way and dress a certain way people assume you’re rude no matter what you actually do or say. This happens a lot with young women because of sexism. Like if you’re not a soft spoken “good girl” you’re taken for a bitch.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

That's fair, we don't know the exact situation so either she was actually rude or OP is exaggerating.

[–] blueeggsandyam@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don’t think there is a proper way to ask. Leave people that are eating alone so they can enjoy their meal. Even if you ask nicely, you are still putting pressure on the person eating. If you need to be seated a specific time go to a restaurant with reservations.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"excuse me, I see you're almost done eating. Are you planning on leaving soon? No? Okay, thank you."

It's not about the ask, it's about taking the "no" gracefully.

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or you could just wait for a seat to open up and take it, because if you’re “asking correctly”, in which you aren’t pressuring anyone to leave, the end result would be exactly the same.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The result of getting a table or not remains the same, but knowing whether or not to pay attention to that table leaving is different. It could mean waiting for that table or going to another area in to see if another table is leaving or open.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think asking creates too many opportunities for conflict, so I agree.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

By that logic, you shouldn't ask anything ever. "Opportunities for conflict"?

There is no conflict if you accept a "no." The impotus on preventing a conflict isn't in the ask, it's in accepting the answer.