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Social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

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[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 77 points 4 months ago

It's not hypocritical or duplicitous to campaign as a progressive against racism but then turn around and support a segregationist's presidential bid, and refuse to call for a ceasefire for months as Israel commits genocide?

[-] infinitevalence@discuss.online 4 points 4 months ago

no, because what happens if he takes a hard line on this, he looses all his political capital and goes back to being a small fish. Unlike the democrats he does not have a large party backing him he has to make more compromises and pick and choose on the issues that he can meaningfully impact.

Just saying no to everything for ideological reasons alone is what the Republicans do, and we have seen how effective their governance is.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

First of all, there is no "compromise" between "genocide palestinians" and "don't genocide palestinians."

the plurality of 18-29 year olds, that is, the only group of people who supported sanders in his primary bids are also the group most likely to be against israel's genocide of palestinians. with whom does he gain "political capital" by supporting israel? People who never supported him in the first place. with whom does he lose "political capital?" The people who supported him. Anyway I hope someone more sophisticated than me in the art of rhetoric and more patient in the art of education is able to exorcise your brainworms with respect to liberal "compromise" politics.

Just saying no to everything for ideological reasons alone is what the Republicans do, and we have seen how effective their governance is.

The republicans and the democrats both support israel, both support war against china, both support NATO expansion, both support capitalism, both support imperialism, both support racism. Demokkk-rats just do it more politely. They drive the car off the cliff at 90 miles an hour instead of 100 miles an hour. They drone strike the children instead of sending roided up marines to do it in person. Oh, and they have slight disagreements with their republican colleagues on matters of priority, like whether China or Russia is a bigger threat, but not on fundamentals.

[-] dementor333@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

First of all, there is no "compromise" between "genocide palestinians" and "don't genocide palestinians."

ok but what if we only genocide half the Palestinians?

[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 4 months ago

just the bad half?

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