Communism doesn't include a hierarchy of power enforced by violence. The two concepts are antithetical. The USSR was somewhere between capitalism and fascism.

[–] SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do you prevent people from trading and owning property without violence?

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Education. The reason that fascists are raising hell about wokeness is that Capitalism depends on ignorance.

[–] SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok, can you "educate" me why I need to get rid of my private property?

And fascists practiced economic policies of "corporatism", not capitalism

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't have private property. You have personal property. https://allthedifferences.com/personal-vs-private-property-whats-the-difference/

Fascism and corporatism is just end stage capitalism. Every time capitalism fails it is bailed out by socialism or it devolves into genocide.

[–] SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The possession of personal property can’t earn you any money

If I understand it correctly my laptop and 3d printer, are private property since I can make money with those...

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No you can't. You have to create a legal entity before you're allowed to make money.

[–] SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if thats required here, but it's totally possible without asking for government permission

Edit: i might be wrong here because of "legal speak" language barrier, but if I understand correctly you can make money from your business as a regular person just fine (legally). There's just a limit on how much you can earn before needing yo register as a business

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can make exactly $600 per year off your personal property before you run afoul of tax laws in the USA.

[–] SneakyThunder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Thats sad(

There its ~25k$ IIRC. (Although doesn't count net profit, just all money you recive)

But there's huge gray market here, and I'm sure US has it too

[–] CHINESEBOTTROLL@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism doesn't include a hierarchy of power enforced by violence

Very convenient, since nothing will ever meet this standard, so you will be able to say "that's not communism" for the rest of your life. Actually sounds like the definition on anarcho capitalism

The two concepts are antithetical

Maybe to you, but many of the people in power at the time believed they were on the way to communism

USSR was somewhere between capitalism and fascism

I know of two common definitions of capitalism: "a system mostly organized around a profit-motive" and "a system in which individuals are mostly free to enter into consensual contracts". I don't see how the USSR is close to either of these. It was closer to fascism, tho there are also large differences

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Nothing will ever meet this standard" ~CHINESEBOTTROLL

If CHINESEBOTTROLL says it, then it must be true.

The two concepts are antithetical, even if the ignorant and corrupt claim it for themselves. Modern Christianity is antithetical to the Gospels of Christ, and that remains the case even as America slides into Christofascism. Fascists have always been steeped in irony because their core beliefs are based in the ignorance of ego.

You having an ignorant concept of capitalism doesn't have any bearing on reality, except that it causes you to ignore the atrocities of the system that keeps you fat and happy.

[–] CHINESEBOTTROLL@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

the atrocities of the system that keeps you fat and happy.

You misunderstand. That is not capitalism but CRONY-capitalism. The two concepts are anrithetical. In REAL capitalism everyone respects the non-agression principle and therefore everyone is free. Crony capitalism is actually the LEAST capitalist system and is closer to socialism, because the government does stuff. I am very smart

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I didn't say that communism hasn't happened. It happens everywhere there's more than one person present, until it is stopped by a fascist who starts building a hierarchy, demanding that one person be in control and set the agenda. Fear is the fertile ground in which ignorance blossoms. The reason that all governments are based in fascism is because they all ultimately believe in their own authority to enact violence on individuals. When the ignorance INEVITABLY collapses into violence, communism rises from the ashes in the form of mutual aide, community, schools, and basic infrastructure.

[–] CHINESEBOTTROLL@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

communism rises from the ashes in the form of mutual aide, community, schools, and basic infrastructure.

This made me realize that you are not worth my time. I hope you have a nice life!