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Microsoft holding a “funeral” for the iPhone after launching the Windows Phone 7 (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] BigMoe@lemmy.zip 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I feel like if Microsoft had been much faster to Market (like faster than Android), they could have gotten business users and companies to switch to them. By the time they came, people were invested in iOS or Android and business users who had switched from BlackBerry went to iOS

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Also almost every app had a iOS and android version and without a big userbase there was no incentive to make another version for windows phone as well. So if they'd got it to market sooner before android took off, a lot of app devs might have made a windows version instead of an android version.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

But they were first to market!

The had a smartphone 7 years before Apple. The app store problem was they couldn't believe consumers would pick a device where you had to buy apps from Apple. Windows phone was like Windows desktop. You went to a store and bought a CD with the app or you went to a website and downloaded it.

There were custom touch friendly skins for Windows phone even before the iPhone.

They only needed to put skin on Windows Phone, up the hardware specs, corrale the existing apps into a store, and they could have matched the iPhone immediately. Instead the new Windows phone team created to compete with the iPhone fell for the old "this needs a complete rewrite" trap that new developers always fall for. Worse, they dropped the 7 phone and did another complete rewrite for the 8 phone.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It seems you're confusing Windows Phone with Windows Mobile. They really are (were) separate products with minimal overlap

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, I used the wrong marketing names. They kept changing the name every few years Windows CE, Palm sized PC, PocketPC, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone. I switched to Android after Windows Mobile. My point was they didn't have to be separate. Windows CE with data came out 9 years before the iPhone. There was a large market of apps. I had a Philips Nino in 1998. It had voice recognition for simple tasks ("Nino dial Chris") and a cf slot to add features like a modem.

There were third party skins for Windows CE that added finger friendly touch so you didn't need the stylus for most things. Windows and Office were successful because they never threw out everything and started over. https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2000/04/06/things-you-should-never-do-part-i/

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah I actually had a windows mobile 6.5 phone, it was quite good except it had a crappy resistive touch screen and most of the apps for it had tiny buttons that required you to use the stylus. Felt more similar to a pda with data than a modern phone. Windows phone 7 was streets ahead.