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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Dystopian AI hellscape is when your image generator makes non-whites (news.ycombinator.com)
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This has convinced me more and more that the only possible way forward that’s not a dystopian hellscape is total freedom of all AI for anyone to do with as they wish. Anything else is forcing values

This dude also posts a direct link to a race-bait bluecheck two comments down, further cementing hn AI threads as downstream frog twitter.

I know this one might be stretching it a bit, but every comment on this post is sneer-worthy, every single one.

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[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just want to draw special attention to the reasoning here

BigTech, which critically depends on hyper-targeted ads for the lion share of its revenue, is incapable of offering AI model outputs that are plausible given the location / language of the request. The irony.

  • request from Ljubljana using Slovenian => white people with high probability
  • request from Nairobi using Swahili => black people with high probability
  • request from Shenzhen using Mandarin => asian people with high probability

If a specific user is unhappy with the prevailing demographics of the city where they live, give them a few settings to customize their personal output to their heart's content.

Not gonna say anything in particular about that reasoning, just gonna draw attention to it

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

BigTech, which critically depends on hyper-targeted ads for the lion share of its revenue, is incapable of offering AI model outputs that are plausible given the location / language of the request.

Hardly surprising given how insistently the ad industry seems to be to show me ads for things I actively dislike or otherwise wildly missing with the products, services or attention seekers it tries to match to my interests and demographic profile.

If it is indeed true that AI companies just do naive search-and-replaces on the inputs to have more diversity in the outputs, that seems like a really crude and low-effort solution and also way more giving a shit than I would expect from an AI company.

Ultimately I think the main disagreements between me and hackernewses is twofold. I don't mind seeing black people, but I also don't take LLMs and ML image generation models seriously as a tool for anything other than shitposting and spam production.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh it's definitely how they do it lol, remember the "Person holding up a sign that says" trick.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 6 points 10 months ago

Pixel art of an adult person female holding a text sign that says adult person chicken.