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[–] z00s@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (6 children)

"Most powerful empire the world has ever known"

Lol Americans

The Romans conquered the known world with pointy sticks and diplomacy.

The US hasn't been on the winning side since ww2 despite having nukes and spyplanes.

Even the British Empire spanned the globe, and all they had was cannons, rum, and syphilis.

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 43 points 8 months ago

Yeah they may not incorporate other countries like previous empires, but their sphere of influence is undeniable unfortunately.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I too would like a Medieval Meal

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

More importantly, did they have the ability to deploy a Taco Bell, McDonald's, and Wendy's anywhere in the world, within 72 hours, just so their troops would have variety of food?

Nope. The Japanese knew they had royally fucked up when they realized that we had ships that were dedicated to ice cream supplies. You have to have everything else needed for war covered, before you start the logistical supply train of ice cream.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Nothing like a cone after a long day of killing japs, hits the spot. knowhatimsayin?!

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No they just had the latrines too close to the food prep area, same effect

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is that your food prep hack? 🤤

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Find out the one weird trick to lose weight fast - generals hate it!

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But if they fought I'd bet against the pointy stick guys and the syphilis guys.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

James Cameron's avatar be like

[–] wind3s@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You seem to completely misunderstand American diplomacy.

Just because America doesn't have the same style of conquest, doesn't mean they aren't conquerors.

America was the first empire to realize that all empires eventually fall whose agenda is toppling nations and replacing their flags with their own.

The USA invented a unique twist: never replacing the country's flag.

Instead, as evidenced by countless examples such as Iran and Panama, the American agenda has always been installing a new national leader whose interests align with American ideals of democracy and "freedom" (predominantly of the white Christian variety). But they keep their "flag", or in some sense maintain a national identity through the new leader, so it feels a lot less like they were conquered.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Exactly. Wilson fucked up with Wilsonian Doctrine, among a ton of other things. Teddy had it right. Speak softly and carry a big stick. Get in, get out, get done.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lol That's just a bunch of mental gymnastics to justify why the "mighty" US can't even win a war against an impoverished SE Asian nation with 50 year old Soviet weapons

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Are you claiming that Victorian England could take modern America in a fight?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

A few trolls can take America by installing a puppet red head president who will then dismantle the country in a few years time.

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We prefer you call him The Great Pumpkin, thank you.

[–] KredeSeraf@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

See also

  • Adolf Twitler

  • Benedict Donald

  • Cheeto Benito

  • Cheeto In Chief

  • Cinnamon Hitler

  • Comrade Cheetolino

  • Con-Hair

  • Despot Cheeto

  • Diaper Don

  • Draft Dodger Don'

  • Fanta Menace

  • Hair Furher

  • King Mierdas

  • The Manchildian Candidate

  • Mango Mussolini

  • Orange Julius Caesar

  • President Gold Man Sucks

  • Prima Donald

  • Pumpkin Pinochet

  • Tangerine Toddler

  • Tangerine Tyrant

  • Trumplethinskin

  • Tweeto Toupee'to

  • The White Pride Pipe

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So are you trying to make him say what he didn't say because your butthurt ?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So you agree America is more powerful than the British Empire?

[–] Diurnambule@jlai.lu 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In military power, yes. Greatest empire ever, no.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

One, no empire is "great," they all suck donkey dick, that's the definition of an empire, two, the meme specifically states "most powerful."

America is objectively the most powerful empire to ever exist, just as the British were more powerful than the Romans.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

i think the only thing keeping china from taking that top slot is reach and the use of the dollar worldwide. both of those are collapsing. the US might not be the biggest asshole on the planet for much longer

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Eh... don't count on it. China has some significant weaknesses. In the short term, economic growth has slowed significantly. Debt in the private and public sector is having consequences, both in the housing market and elsewhere. In the longer term, China is aging at a faster rate than the US, both due to a low birth rate and immigration rates that are virtually nonexistent compared to the US. China's GDP is outpacing the US for now, but it's an open question how long that pace will last.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, instead we'll get a nation that treats North Korean workers so poorly they riot and execute the management.

Good times for humanity ahead...

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

OK, what's your basis for objective measurement?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The ability to literally kill all multicellular life on Earth is a good starting point for "powerful"

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Along with Russia, China, India, France and the UK. And North Korea and Pakistan.

And no, the US doesn't have the greatest number. That's Russia.

So, no, the US is not "objectively the most powerful".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_with_nuclear_weapons

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That America's actually work tip the scales, along with having a military not made of meat grinder slaves and eighty year old Soviet tanks. Plus, you know, a real navy and air force.

And while modern France and peers could indeed no diff the Romans or Victorian Britain, only America and Russia have enough nukes to kill the world (go us!)

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Lol you're neck deep in propaganda

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I just wouldn't call it an empire, that's all. I'm not a historian but to me, empires are made by occupying other countries.

The US is a powerful nation of course, but they don't have the same focus on conquest as the other countries throughout history have had.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifest_destiny

Just ignoring the concept of neocolonialism for a second, most American land was stolen through conquest. That the American Empire is not currently aggressively expanding is irrelevant, did Rome not count as an empire when its borders were stable?

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That would be interesting, to compare the land mass of the US with the max size of the Roman empire. My guess is that the romans would win by a hair.

But the Brits would definitely win because they have Australia, which is almost as big as the continental US just in itself, let alone all the other countries they conquered.