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Russia’s war in Ukraine is already in its 17th month. In that time, President Vladimir Putin has clearly demonstrated that he is not bothered by losses — whether they be financial, material, or human. His war will go on as long as he needs. And, judging by how the authorities have woven the so-called “special military operation” into Russian life, that will be a long time.

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[–] SuspiciousUser@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

He can wait to see if Trump becomes president, because we all know how it will end with his BFF in charge.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Any Republican, really. Just listen to Fox or the Republicans in Congress.

[–] kingthrillgore@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the long game, because if Trump wins, he can get the US out of NATO and that's a constitutional crisis at home, and a serious flashpoint to drive Europe back into squabbling.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Not with this supreme court.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

America is far from the only country providing support to Ukraine.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once US turns off the tap this war ends immediately. It's really that simple.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, it really isn't. The rest of eastern Europe's countries remember what it was like to live under the Russian thumb and they have plenty of modern weapons and well-trained soldiers salivating to ensure Russia is going to be a crippled husk for the next few generations. Western Europe is none to fond of Russia either. And if America stops helping because an obvious Russian puppet president has taken power, that's only going to make it worse.

America may be the sole "superpower", but bear in mind that that means Russia is not a "superpower". They're a peer to the various countries of Europe at best, and by this point I would not even call them that. Ukraine has more tanks than Russia does now. America's already done a lot of the heavy lifting in breaking Russia, if they bowed out now it's not like everything resets to the way it was in 2021. Russia is still on the ropes.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The rest of eastern Europe’s countries remember what it was like to live under the Russian thumb

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Surveys conducted in 2013.

Gee, I wonder if anything might have happened from 2014 to present that would have changed those numbers a bit.

Also, to dig up an old favourite, you forgot Poland. And a bunch of others. More countries were "living under the Russian thumb" than just literal members of the USSR. Here's 14 former Soviet republics that joined NATO, whose primary purpose is to defend against Russian attack.

[–] abraxas@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

LOL. Looks like the 2013 study decided not to ask anyone they knew for sure would answer that they were glad they were free from the USSR.

[–] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

To ja ci kurwa powiem, że lepiej było dla młodzieży za PRLu niż teraz. Jebać Solidarność, chuje sprzedali nas za paczkę fajek.

Gdyby nie program ziemii odzyskanych nigdy bym kurwa nie marzył o tym że kiedykolwiek będę miał dom na własność.

Prawie każdą osobę którą znam chce spierdolić na zachód za "lepszym" życiem, więc dzięki wielkie za tą waszą "wolność".

Ingles?

NIE

[–] yata@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

No, but it is definitely the singlemost important contributor by far.

[–] Noughmad@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

True, but if America decides to provide support to Russia, the rest of NATO will stand down.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

There's a vast difference between America ceasing to support Ukraine and America supporting Russia. Simply never going to happen, that's a loonie scenario.

NATO is not officially supporting Ukraine. It just so happens that all the various NATO member countries are all individually deciding that it's in their interests to support Ukraine. If America drops out that's not going to change whether it's in the interests of those countries to continue supporting Ukraine. Indeed, it becomes all the more important for many of them to make sure Russia's strength is broken if they don't feel they can rely on America to support them.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You must know by now that Russiagate was a hoax?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter. Trump wants Russia to win.