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Radicalizing my lib parents on Israel/Palestine as often as I can get away with (and you can too) Feb 26 (hexbear.net)
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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1928681

The rest of this story has been in the hexbear megathreads, but I'll probably compile it into a post someday. It's mostly me using facts and logic, along with ethos and pathos and Norm Finkelstein's book Gaza to convince them that Israel is a genocidal ethnostate.

Report: February 26th 2024

I am still continuing to radicalize my parents on Israel/Palestine as often as I can get away with. Today, I explained to them what white phosphorous is and how often Israel is using it. And where it is manufactured (it's the USA, folks, in good old St Louis, MO).

If you don't know already, white phosphorous is

NSFL description of a banned weapon that Israel uses weeklythis sticky goo that bursts into flame on contact with the air, then it burns the skin of the victims and poisons you by entering the holes that just burned up, causing liver damage and eventually multiple organ failure.
Also mentioned that Israel destroyed nearly every hospital in Gaza, so no treatment for those women and children burned with chemical weapons.

My mom searched "white phosphorus israel" and saw that Israel did a white phosphorus attack on a Jabalia refugee camp on October 31, killing 195+ civilians (they're all civilians, it's a FUCKING REFUGEE CAMP).

Source here, debate perverts: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/31_October_2023_Jabalia_refugee_camp_airstrike

I asked my dad "What you are supposed to do when evil wins and your country is funding it?" (Thanks JT for the excellent framing device). He had a long think about that one.

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[โ€“] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm glad that my parents aren't terrible people. My Mom was pretty good at understanding the crux of the issue but my dad took a LOT of convincing.

My Dad has a HARD block on Russia/Ukraine. In his mind, Putin is Literally Hitler and has no justification for wanting a buffer zone without NATO nukes.

[โ€“] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Not even drawing comparisons with the "Cuban Missile Crisis" is making a dent.