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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 16 points 4 months ago

That is only true in the undemocratic 2 party system of the US.

In places where they actually have multiple parties, say 10 or so at least. It is hard to not find a party that you like more than the others.

So if someone doesn't vote, it means none of the parties are good enough. Otherwise they would vote blank. And if too many people do not vote, it sends a clear signal to the government that they need to change something fast in order to prevent an uprising.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

We need ranked choice voting. First past the post virtually guarantees a two party system.

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Just don’t go with the mistake we have in Australia where your vote has to transfer.

At the end of the day we effectively have a two party system, because eventually any minor party will funnel their votes towards the two large and near identical NeoLib parties.

So all left votes go to Labor and all right votes go to Liberal, as such Labor don’t give a shit about leftist voters and instead try to poach right wing Lib voters because they know there’s zero chance the left will ever preference Lib so they can’t lose them.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

We need STAR voting more. Ranked choice voting is only marginally better than first past the post.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago
[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Sure! It’s also called approval voting. But the key is it’s called STAR: score then automatic runoff. You rank any of the candidates from 0 to 5. If you don’t rank them, it’s a 0. Then you total all the scores and the highest score wins.

More info here: https://www.starvoting.org

The cool thing about STAR is that I can rank some people a 1 saying “they’re better than nothing!” While voting for my favorites with 5’s. The highest score wins, so the most approved by most people wins.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

That is only true in the undemocratic 2 party system of the US.

I think that's pretty clearly who this post was targeted at.

[-] mateoinc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 months ago

There it's indistinguishable from being uninterested in politics. And politicians have no incentives to cater to those that seem unlikely to vote. Null and blank votes are better at showing disaproval of the system, and at making politicians rethink their strategies

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 4 months ago

I was gonna mention this: You don’t have to vote for anyone, and you can just lie after you leave the ballot blank.

[-] wildcherry@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

To be fair, coming from one of those places, I do not want to vote either. The socialists party is crony as shit with multiple corruptions affair, and the only other options are the liberals. Guess I'll vote far-left, but I don't really like them either for they are statists.

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