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[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Same thing with people thinking that organic food is healthier. Organic food might be good for the environment, but not necessarily the climate or your health.

[–] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 24 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I worked in produce as a quality inspector for a couple years. Organic generally just means lower quality for higher price. No one is regulating it as far as I know, they can just skip pesticides, do everything else the same and charge more for the same product that actually cost them less to produce. We refered to it as a hillarious scam when the boss wasnt around.

[–] ArcaneGadget@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That depends on where you live though. Here in Denmark, as an example, we have a certificate called "Statskontrolleret ΓΈkologisk" which basically translates to "Government-certified organic". There are specific guidelines and rules that need to be followed, to be allowed to use this seal on your product.

We have a similar system in the US. The US department of agriculture has a stamp they put on food that has strict criteria for what goes in it

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it cost more to produce because you lose more crops to pests?

[–] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

No, thats just the bullshit they use to justify it.

Anything not looking good enough gets sent to a secondary outlet and is sold as is with no organic labels. The stuff that is a grade below that gets juiced ( dont drink fruit juice that you didnt make yourself if you can help it...). They are not losing a single pennie, they are making out like thieves

[–] Unmapped@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Organic has less pesticides. Which is probably healthier no? I mostly buy non organic, but always get organic for certain foods like strawberries and oats since they tend to have so much pesticides used on them.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 10 points 8 months ago

Organic has less pesticides.

Less pesticides also means more bacteria and more bug poop. There is a reason why they use pesticides, after all.

Even if there are trace amounts of pesticides left, you can just wash the produce, which you should always do anyway. Same reason you wash the organic produce to get rid of bug stuff...

The trace amounts of bug poop or pesticides really makes no difference when it comes to your health.

Not necessarily less pesticides, but "natural" pesticides. In my opinion, organic food is probably either equivalent or better than not-organic, but I don't think there's much scientific consensus.

People tend to think "organic" means that a food item is free from the ills of industrial agriculture, but it really doesn't. It's the same thing with people directing hate at GMO's: most complaints people have about them are really complaints that apply to industrial ag whether GMO or not.