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[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Specifically in the case of Esperanto, there's also the fact that Zamenhof was ethnically Jewish. That would make him a direct target of nationalism

This is mentioned in Mein Kampf.

Ctrl+F that book for 'Esperanto'

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Found it - in chapter VIII.

As long as the Jew has not succeeded in mastering other peoples he is forced to speak their language whether he likes it or not. But the moment that the world would become the slave of the Jew it would have to learn some other language (Esperanto, for example) so that by this means the Jew could dominate all the more easily.

I think that it's a given that this is fucking stupid, preceded and succeeded by even more inane shit. So, focusing on Esperanto alone:

Even if Zamenhof wasn't Jewish, odds are that the Nazi would find a bone to pick against Esperanto. Esperanto's ideology of peaceful coexistence is in direct conflict with concepts like vital space / Lebensraum and ethnic supremacy, and nationalists in general hate when you look into the world outside your "nation".

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

It triggering Hitler is a good reason to learn Esperanto

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Two of Zamenhoff´s children died in camps iirc

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago