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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You've never heard of strike breakers? Pinkertons? Battle of Blair Mountain?

I mean that's just your own ignorance at this point

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

“You’ve never heard of water? Why would you start a fire?”

What kind of logic is that?

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not saying he's right, I'm saying it's absurd that you've never heard of the battles against unions in the US.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lol why would that matter if you didn’t agree with him? What’s your point?

And FYI, I read a book called “Inventing the Pinkertons,” aaallll about the company since their inception, from the Allen who chased outlaws and fabricated an assassination plot against Lincoln to boost his company, through to his sons who took over and became the supreme anti-labor army.

How did you not know about Allen Pinkerton actually being pro labor and fleeing Scotland for his involvement in a labor movement there?

Now—I don’t know if you knew this. But this is to give an example of how stupid your comment has been because you have no idea what I know about the pinkertons and the history of labor conflict and nothing I said would give you any reason to think I don’t know what you’re referencing.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You literally said it.

Although I will admit I haven’t heard this one before.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

As an excuse. As an excuse. You’ve never heard someone say “I’ve never heard that one before?” It’s a very common phrase. You should write it down, it’ll become useful sometime later for you, I’m sure.

But I’ll tell you what kills the labor rights movement way more effectively than strike breakers, militarized police victimizing picketers, and a private detective agency from the turn of the century that has since changed so much as to basically not exist in that function anymore, is never striking in the first place.

I swear to fuckin god, there is some insanely backwards thinking every single time a strike is brought up. And it’s almost uniform. But modern people have come to think of general strikes as a thing that’s just not possible anymore. They don’t need a modern day Pinkertons. They have you.